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FOX News
Oct 28, 2013 9:00pm PDT
less benefits. obama care requires insurers to beep up coverage. that costs money. the fear was that insurers forced to offer more benefits would raise rates or dump policies all together. that's exactly what is happening. contrary to the president's explicit promises. listen. >> actually, any insurance you currently have would be grandfathered in so you could keep. so you could decide not to get in the exchange the better plan. i could keep my acme i insurance, just a high deductible catastrophic plan. i would not be required to get the better one. >> but that's not what's happening at all. exactly what he said would not happen is happening. you are required to get rid of the acme plan. you are required to buy one on the, change and it is costing americans more. so far nearly a million policies have been cancelled. over ten million more could end soon. 14 million. with the american people now demanding answers you can keep your plan, period, today turned into maybe for most. for the majority. well, some can. et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. here is former white house senior adviser
CNN
Oct 29, 2013 2:00pm PDT
chair. congress gets the first public apology for the obama care website mess. with the president apologize for promising if you like your current health care plan you can keep it. millions of people now are finding out that's not necessarily true. senator lindsey graham gram joins thus hour as well. he is vowing to block all of the president's appointments until survivors of the benghazi attack are made available to testify before congress. i'm wolf blitzer and you are in "the situation room." massive suburb veil answer at home and abroad. millions of people targeted for snooping including dozens of world leaders. there was explaining to do in front of their congressional overseers. they strongly denied some of the allegations, made some of their own. let's begin our coverage this hour with our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto who is watching what is going on. how did they explain, first of all, jim, the spying that goes on allied leaders? >> very strong bush back from the director of national intelligence stating as fact that european allies spy on the u.s. as w
FOX News
Oct 28, 2013 11:00pm PDT
it meant a lot to us. as always, thank you for being with us. start each and every morning 5:00 to 9:00, fox and friends right here on the fox news channel. see you back here tomorrow night. >>> this is a fox news alert. it is official. the obama administration just announcing it is granting a six week extension until march 31st for americans to sign up for obama care and avoid penalties. now, the extension was expected since h.h.s. said they planned to do it as technical problems continue to plague the web site. also tonight, many young americans, they are laughing at obama care. so what makes you think they would buy insurance on the exchanges if they are busy laughing at it and, if they don't, you tell me, where are we going to get the money? >> we're probably just overloaded with traffic, millions of americans are visiting healthcare.gov, which is great news. unfortunately, the site was only designed to handle six users at a time. >> secretary sebelius and her comments, she is already the laughing stock of america. >> i have a number of friendly tips to help you deal with those technical problems. for example, have you tried restarting your computer? >> why didn't she know that the president's signature legislation was, in fact, in trouble? >> the incompetence in building this web site is staggering. >> we don't need the government running our healthcare. >> he has lost considerable credibility. >> be sure to like us on facebook oh, look at that we are already up to three likes and i like that enthusiasm. >> a big new glitch knocks out the obama care web site halting online enrollment for all 50 states. this computer crash comes just a couple of days after h.h.s. secretary kathleen sebelius ensured reporters that the online experience can s. getting better. >> this is not about a web site, it's about making sure that millions of americans have access to affordable health insurance. >> the president said i could keep my doctor and keep my health insurance. apparently that's not true. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. period. >> that promise is being broken. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. >> you are no longer eligible to buy your own plan, which was the number one promise that the president made to the american people. >> >> most people are can going to keep their own plan, senator, and you know that. >> that's not true. >> they were promised they get to keep the doctor they have. under bronze plans and some of these plans there is no way you will get to keep them. >> what the president said is turning out to be a falsehood. >>> you heard right, republican senator john have a was so he calling h.h.s. secretary cat lien sebelius the laughing stalk of america. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. your thoughts about the president, the obama administration has now delayed six weeks the enrollment. do you like that? >> this is a law that the president continues to figure isn't the law. he continues to make changes. this is the about 14th time he has made some change in the law i support legislation to actually give every american an opportunity to delay it for a year. i think we ought to remove this individual mandate permanently. >> i think it was senator mike lee who had a conversation with us. he said the law has been quote amend ad so many times whether people get exemptions or postponements or waivers that there have been some changes in the law that it's not the law that was passed by congress whether you like it or not. do you feel the same way he does about that. >> i do feel that way. we ought to legislatively. i'm a doctor, i want to make sure that americans get affordable care without all these regulations, mandates, taxes and there are ways that we can do it. what we are seeing with this healthcare law and so much attention is to the web site. the web site is really just the tip of the iceberg, there are big problems coming with this, greta. >> should secretary sebelius step down or get fired. >> the president gets to make that decision. >> what do you think. >> i have called for her resignation. i think when jon stuart and "saturday night live" are making fun of the job that you are doing and the web site, what that speaks to is the fact that young americans are laughing at the secretary and the web site. these are the people that the president is trying to coerce into buying insurance that is more expensive and more insurance that they want or need and in many cases can afford. that's the only way that you pay for the insurance for these older, sicker indivi younger people buy it. >> at this point though what would be achieved by that if she were, you know, if the president said you have got to go or she decided to go. what would be achieved? >> the president has called his administration, open, accountable, transparent. she ought to be honest with the american people. how many people have signed up? she won't tell us that. >> how does she know. >> saturday she said things are going well and within a day things crash again with the web site and their data hub. so i think that she has lost so much credibility with the american people it's hard to take it seriously. but the problem isn't just the web site. ultimately they are going to get this fixed. people across the country are seeing that their premiums are going up. they are receiving cancellation notices of their insurance. more people since october 1st have gotten cancellation notices, greta than have been signed on. >> if had you a chance to question her on wednesday, what would you ask her? >> what went wrong? when are you going to give us real answers? we ought to be able in an internet age know how many people have signed up every day, what zip code they are from. >> that's what i want to know how many people have signed up a and sign up to get subsidies or medicaid? i would like the different categories to figure out if we have the funding. >> it doesn't sound like they are buying or paying for insurance. many more are signing up for medicaid which is paid for by the government. but more people are getting termination notices, cancellation of their coverage. people are having a harder time finding a doctor. this is ripe for fraud. and actually identity theft. so these are the things that are coming down the line. it looks to me like we are going to end up in what's called an insurance death spiral because if the young healthy people don't pay more for their insurance and you have older sicker people it's going to go down, down, and then you are looking at to me a massive government bailout of this entire healthcare law. >> senator, nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> constantly getting new reports that americans are losing their healthcare plans that is despite president obama's repeated promise that if you like your plan you can keep it managing editor bob cusack joins us. nice so see you, sir. >> hey, greta. >> what's your if you get to keep your -- if you like your insurance policy you get to environmental protection agency it? >> remember in 2009, 2010, they were down in the votes. they needed to get the votes even though they controlled both the house and the senate. they need to push it through. so they made some promises and i think there are s. going to be more congressional investigations who knew what when because now there are reports that the administration knew some people were going to lose their healthcare coverage? >> so they knew at the time? >> that's a new report that just came out. >> why did they say that? either they said that because they truly believed it or because they were trying to hood wink the american people. one or the other. >> some of the plans they are saying are really low level plans. okay. so that means that people don't pay as much to get into them. so, now,. >> but a lot of people like those. >> exactly. so that's where republicans say the market comes into play that republicans that people should be able to keep their plans if they like it. even if the deductible is high they are paying low premiums. now they may get more services but they may be forced to pay more. clearly this is becoming a debacle for the obama administration. the shutdown is over and this is a gift to the g.o.p. >> about how many -- do we have any of the numbers of people that say they are not going to be able to get the policy. the ones getting notices from the insurance companies of the plan. >> yeah. >> how bad? >> at least 800,000 now in various states. the administration says those people will be signing up and going into the exchanges if the healthcare web site works. so, but i think a lot of those people there is going to be a lot of antidotes and stories. we have seen some already where people have lost plans, they are getting these notices in the mail where they are cancelled and they don't know what's going on there is a lot of confusion and that's why it's becoming fodder for late night talk shows. >> i remember the insurance companies talking to the administration all along. someone must have figured this one out. it's just not that hard. what were the insurance companies saying to the obama administration back in 2010 or whenever the date was this started? >> well, remember when they the health insurance agency was opponent of this law. the only thing the obama administration liked was the mandate. >> the insurance company calls it money. >> nancy pelosi at the time, they struck a deal with the hospitals. they struck a deal with pharma,. >> big drug companies. >> nancy pelosi called them immoral villains the healthcare industry. you had this awkward relationship where the industry had to work with the obama administration to make this thing work. clearly there are battle scars for the fight to pass the bill. >> people develop close relationship with the docs that are profoundly sick or chronic what about losing doctors? >> they have backed away from that promise. both keep your plan and your doctor. and now well it's most people can. >> what's most 55 or 99? >> that's the question. >> 55% or 99%? >> we don't know how many are enrolled. >> you know why i buy it i can go to dubai and stick my card in the apartment tm and 100 bucks and it goes on my bank card. are you telling me they can't figure out how many are enrolled. >> they had trouble with the web site. so who he knows. >> bob, nice to see you, thank you. >> thanks, greta. >> straight ahead, close your ice. now, imagine this. paying ten times what you are currently paying for your health insurance. could that be happening to you? and upnext, you will meet he a woman who says that nightmare is about to become her reality and just when you thought it could not get worse it just did. did you hear about the latest glitch in the computers, the one that could put your security, that's you. you can hash it out with us new glitches coming up. do you think the obama care web site could be fixed by the november 30th deadline >> could this happen to you? a florida woman finding out she will have to pay 10 times as much for health insurance that is because she is losing her current plan to obama care. diane barrett joins us. nice to see you. >> nice to he see you, greta. >> all right. i understand. in fact, i have got a copy of your florida blue insurance and it's about $54 a month. and now i understand that under obama care it's going to go up at least they said that the policy they would offer you under florida blue would be $591; is that correct? >> that's correct. >> all right. now, you are $54 a month policy is a pretty, you know, bare bones policy. why do you want to keep that one except for the price? maybe you can get something better with a subsidy? >> well, i know it doesn't cover lengthy hospital stays. it's perfect for what i want. i get co-pays for doctor visits and prescriptions. so, so it suffices what i need also the price isn't too bad either. >> well, does it pay for any hospitalization, the current policy you have? >> again, i'm a little confused about it i have been reading over and over the policies. and it appears that it does cover some outpatient but when you go through the booklet they sent it would say refer to this. refer to it but then refer back to -- it was very confusing. >> i don't doubt that can i tell you i totally agree with you. trying to figure out insurance is extremely confusing in the best of circumstances. look, you were promised you could keep your policy if you like it. i must say though that your policy is like, you know, if you are walking across the street and one run as red light you are in deep trouble under your existing policy he. >> that is true. >> so maybe it turns out that there might be a different policy. i know that wasn't the promise made to you but maybe there is something, a policy out there. i don't know if it comes as low as $54 with a subsidy, do you know that? i don't know that. no, since did my tweet about this issue, i have gotten a lot of emails with winks that would provide me low -- well not really low but better care than 5 1 a month. that's something i would like to look into. >> well, it is true that you are going to get a lot of -- on the services you may not want. you may not want maternal pediatric, dental or vision. you may not want some of those and it's extremely confusing. i don't recommend or at least right now healthcare.gov to getting it clarified. you have a real stripped down policy here and i think you need to find someone who understands this stuff. it's pretty confusing i concede. your promise wasn't kept. you don't get to keep your policy i can tell that you much because i read that right here. >> yeah. and also the doctors i have been use having been wonderful. i wanted to hang on to them but apparently i can't do that anymore and also trying to get on to the web site, that's a joke because no one can get on it right now so it's really hard. there is is time constraints. they were saying in the letter, you have to make up your mind by november 1st, which is only a couple days i'm allowed to keep my plan up until december 31st. as of january 1st. i have to pay that 591 in full or i get dropped. >> well, i recommend that you find someone who understands this stuff a lot better than i do who can explain it to you because your situation is a troubling one. but, diane, thank you and good luck. >> oh, thank you so much. >>> coming up, another obama care web site glitch this one is different. not just annoying. this one could put your security at risk. the plot thickens, the obama care cover girl goes mia. why does she suddenly disappear from the web site? that's really weird. why can't anyone track her down? late nest that birds >> she is the most wanted woman in america. the smiling dark haired woman who is the face of the obama care web site disappearing in more ways than one. first, the so-called rich girl vanishing for the web site. the face replaced four icons showing how people can like obama care. now no one can find the actual woman behind the famous photo. media outlets trying to track down the cover girl. her identity is a secret. you be the judge? what do you think happened to the so-called glitch girl? a she demanded that her face be taken off embattled web site web sight needed a change or c she was put in a witness protection program. go to gretawire right now and vote in our poll. >> well, it happened again, another glitch in the obama care web site and this new glitch, well, it's different. it's not that annoying type. we all know that annoying type. the one that makes you want to throw your computer out the window. this is a security risk type. the one that really worries you. the data hub crashing. now, that is software that is supposed to verify and protect your personal information. diane black joins us. good evening, ma'am. >> good evening, greta, it's great to be with you. >> nice to have you. so what's the problem with the security? what's the risk that some say we have? >> we have been talking about this since june. at that point in time people didn't realize what would be going on for obama care. this data hub is different than the web site. because this is the site that holds all your most personal information things like social security administration, your income many of the pieces of information that you would not want others to have any access to. so we saw a glitch over the weekend. we have written a letter to the inspector general of h.h.s. asking him about what is a normal process when something like this is put up by the government and that is ensuring american people of their most personal information. >> i thought that this hub that you are talking about was sort of like a hub for an airline that you come, in things just get transferred through there but nothing stays there. does information actually stay in the hub, personal information? >> well, the hub is available. it's almost like supposed to be like a realtime thing, where you would go in and ping let's say irs to verify someone's income or you may go in and ping immigration to find out what an immigration status was. and so it's a way to get in and then get out. but that information is very sensitive information that, unless you can assure the american people that who is getting in there and who is getting out or who has access to it to begin with is a very scary thing. there is a lot of very personal information in that data hub. >> i suppose there a lot of people with a lot of personal information even at the irs, even long before obama care. you have no idea how many people have access to the hub and we only have 30 seconds left. >> no, we do not. and we don't know about the navigator which we have also talked about that i would love to talk about that what we have seen with the navigator. the scary fact they are out there getting this information from people. we really don't know at this point in time, greta, where our personal information is going to be misused for fraud aabuse. >> i think wednesday would be a great opportunity when h.h.s. secretary kathleen sebelius testifies. maybe we will hear more about this too. thank you. >> you are very welcome. thank you for having me. >> mg coup, you heard him. he promised you. president obama promising you can keep your health plan. is the white house now >> now, get ready to speedway your way through the news, first to north carolina. the carnival ride that left people five people seriously hurt. ride operator charged with assault with a deadly weapon. today the accused operator making his first court appearance, last thursday the vortex voltedded into motion throwing riders to the ground. three people are still in the hospital. enough to to washington, d.c. courtroom just a short time ago sicker chris brown appearing in court. is he accused in another violent attack over the weekend brown was arrested for allegedly punching a man outside a d.c. hotel. police say the fight started after the man tried to get into a photo with brown. brown was charged with felony assault. but moments ago the charge was reduced to a misdemeanor and the singer was released from custody. brown is still on probation though for the beating of his ex-girlfriend rihanna in 2009. >>> and also here in washington senator lindsey graham threatening to hold up all nominations for federal government position. that is still survivors of the benghazi attack appear before congress. today senator graham tweeting what are the benghazi survivors? i'm going to block every appointment in the u.s. senate until they are made available to congress. now, four americans, including ambassador chris stevens were murder derderian in the benghazi attack. and finally senate intelligence committee chair dianne feinstein pledging a major review of nsa surveillance. senator feinstein's statement follows reports that the nsa has conducted surveillance on leaders of foreign countries including german chancellor angela merkel. senator feinstein saying she totally oppose to the collection of intelligence on leaders of u.s. allies. and that oversight must be strengthened. and that is tonight's speed read. >>> so, how many times you have heard president obama say. this. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your health care plan. if you like your health your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan. >> if you have got health insurance through your employer, you can keep your lelt insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan. >> if you like your healthcare plan you will be able to keep your healthcare plan, period. >> period. the president promising all americans they can keep their healthcare plan, period. well, now we are hearing a slightly different tune from david axelrod. >> most people are going to keep their own plan. the majority of people in this country, the vast majority of people in this country are keeping their plan. >> most. so what happened to all. that's what was promised. and white house press secretary jay carney now admitting this. >> what the president said and everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought along by the affordable care act that man mall. it's true there are existing healthcare plans on the minimum market that don't meet those minimum standards and don't qualify for the act. >> nice to see you, john. >> nice to be here. >> when are politicians going to realize we have videotape. >> i don't know. there was never any nuances. he never said most of you will be able to keep your plans or some of you can keep your plan if the government says it's good enough. he said all of you can keep it, end of story, period. at one point he said this is another quote from 2009, the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform. there was never any escape there or knew abc. now it's proving not to be true for millions of people. >> tough luck for those -- what does that mean for them? it sounds sort of mean. did he promise it. it's not like it was a slip. we got too many of them. >> exactly. right now we are seeing reports between 17 and 16 million who buy their insurance on the individual market they will be thrown off their current plan. they have to go out and buy new plans that have more regulations, more benefits, arguably and in some cases that costs a lot more. one woman said 10 times the plan she was on. >> she had a very stripped down plan. i was sort of suspicious. i felt bad for her plan, it looks like she more for her plan she ever got out of it it i wasn't a big fan of that plan i felt bad for her. she is being forced to. she may never have schirn. under the new plan she has to pay for a plan that has maternity benefits, benefits for children in case she had children there it are a lot of things they had to pay for so they need to charge people so they pay for this so so they have the extra money because never know they are going to use it. >> some people got to stay on the plan. get people off their current plan and into the obama care exchanges. they need as many people as they can to subsidize the very high cost people signed s. >> if you are grandfathered in doesn't it require your insurance company to be a willing participant. if your insurance company cuts off the plan. being grandfathered in isn't going to help. >> you no you will have to be in the obama care exchanges and right now they are turning to have the web site and can't sign up for anything. >> they are hoping -- they have given us november 30th now everything is to be fixed on the web sift. what are they saying about the other issues who is signing up? >> they haven't given us much details whatsoever about the numbers of people signing up. we are getting to the heart of everything right now with -- we are actually getting to the merits of the lay right now. how many people are seeing rates go up and losing their plans. not just talking about technical issues and getting to the heart of law if this is going to give enough people health insurance or simply spending more money, throwing money at an issue that's not going to really solve anything. >> behind the scenes are people beginning to shy away from it those support it or still believe in it? >> individual mandate delay. the only problem is that the individual mandate delay doesn't help these people plans. promise you you can keep it, and now what we are going to offer you is the ability not to be fined for not buying a plan. that doesn't help those people. they want insurance. >> what could help them at this point. what do you do about those people. >> senator ron johnson from wisconsin introduce a bill in everybody who had a plan in 2013 keep it in 2014. >> if you like your plan can you deep act he hasn't introduced it. >> that assumes those plans are still available. as i understand some plans are just gone. >> there is definitely some technical problems but some markets are out there for people who don't want all these things. some people don't want certain services and deductibles at certain rates. some people are willing to keep more of the money now. someone in the market would find with 16 million people potentially on there, that's a whole lot of people to sell insurance to when do we expect to get the enrollment. who signed up for medicaid and policy and who signed up to get a subsidy and how much money is going to roll in from this. >> not until november 15th i have seen. that's the current estimate. november 15th seems like that's the day. >> is that going to be -- do they have the capability? why don't we have that now? they don't have the capability or we shouldn't have ask? they are overwhelmed trying to figure out how to log on. >> they must have the capability. >> we thought they could figure out a computer site. >> how can they tell you that 7 million people tried to get on the web site and can't tell you how many people ended up enrolling. doesn't make any sense. >> are they confident or panicked? >> i think a little bit more on the panicked side right now. i think they know if they don't get the web site up and running that's going to create huge structural problems for the law. if you don't have the thing up and running, the people who are going to take these extraordinary measures who have r. going to sign up the sickest people with the highest health cost. not going to be the young healthy person who need to keep rates down for everybody else. << november 30th is november 15th much more important date. >> a lot of important deadlines. >> great to see you from the great state of wisconsin. ahead, subpoena on the way. darrell issa is here to tell you who is on the hot seat next. romance between governor chris cities christie and bruce springsteen. rudy giuliani is sean guest at 10 p.m. eastern. >>> okay, everyone. it's time to hash it out. new jersey governor chris christie scoring big endorsement. the hill shaqses christie. new 30 second spot. >> i don't endorse many politicians but chris christie is different. is he working with with me to bring jobs back to our cities. and on a new program to help kids in tough neighborhoods get ahead. governor christie has provided more funding for schools, given parents more choices in what schools their kids can go to and merit pay for good teachers. >> talk about a slam dunk ad, you like that one? and a shocking new trend among american soldiers. the associated press tweeting suck in that gut, soldier. bulkier troops turn to liposuction to pass the fat test. relies on neck and waste measurements to determine future prospects in the military. service members argue the test also weeds out muscular builds so some are getting plastic surgery in a desperate attempt to pass. brittany spears defending the high seas. owould have guess. brittany spears songs are being used to scare away somali pirates. oops i did it again are a secret weapon, they are used to deter pirates from approaching super tankers off the coast of africa. since somali pirates hate western culture. perfect from the merchant ships to blast. grub street tweeting police located a suspected arby's through a trail of curly fries. groped by a man in the drive-thru lane. police tracked down the car of a parking lot discovered a trail of curly flies and sauce leading to the man's room. here now to hash it out to us. #greta in all your tweets and posts. house republicans demanding answers about the obama care web site and a subpoena is going out o. house oversight chair darrell issa is here to talk about that next. test test >>> okay. let's go off the record for just a minute. now, this is not about whether you are for or against obama care. this is about reality. about getting the money to fund obama ha care. where are we getting it. obama care for the nation ♪ free. we had to find the money but where? shear who the obama administration is banking on, the young and the healthy. president obama believes the old and healthy will finance old. young people typically don't have much medical care. they are young. the hope is that the young fill the obama care covers and take that money to use to pay the big medical bills of the older and the sick. can we counted on the young? will they do this for us? what do you think in the the white house is hoping the young will make up 40% of the new enrollees in the health care exchanges, but getting that many people to sign up, well, i don't think that's so easy. right now the young people are laughing at obama care. yeah, laughing that doesn't help. laughing at the amateur.com web site the federal government put together. web site many of them may think they could create themselves and actually have it work. that's not all. many young are snickering at "saturday night live" spoof at h.h.s. secretary sebelius healthcare.gov. if any young person happened to miss the parody of sebelius. he or she can log and watch it right now again and again and again. the video has gone viral. you know who fuels that. young people. that proves they are watching that and a laughing. of course, if young people stop laughing we need them to get serious and do obama care math. they are going to figure out out the obvious it is cheaper for the young to pay the irs mandate penalty than to buy healthcare insurance. now, i'm not trying to be a wet blanket but how is obama administration going to convince the young people to pay more than they have to for probably something they don't think they are going to need in the first place because they are so young and healthy? now, no one should be laughing and that is my off othe record comment tonight. if you have an important story or issue you think i should take off the record go to gretawire.com and tell us about it. >>> and tonight a subpoena is on the way. where is it headed? house oversight chair darrell issa joins us. nice to he so you, sir. >> thanks for having me on. you know, obama care really does count on either you pay too much or you pay the fine. either way it's revenue to a program that needs revenue. we served qssi out of 11 verchedz involved in this colossal failure only one has cooperate in a timely fashion. this is the one going forward has the task of doing the web site. >> the qssi that is the hub sight people? >> right. they are the people who they are the division of united health. they are in fact a vendor before. they are the go forward lead vendor so to a certain extent they are taking the party line of the administration of we are too busy to talk to you even about what we did to fail in the past. >> division of united health or division of my healthcare? i mean my insurance company? >> it's a small world in healthcare. >> very small world. they get a contract with the government to set up the hub and they are also up there providing insurance to people? at a cost. >> one of their senior vice presidents who they would not confirm his exact position 11 months ago was still cms. it's a small world when it comes to obama care. >> you have subpoenaed not the humans but documents, right? >> we have subpoenaed the documents to get to the facts. the truth is with the other ten, we're hoping that documents aloan will get us where we want to be. we know for a fact that people at h.h.s. representing that they were acting on behest of the people at the white house as for last minute changes. that's already been told to us by a lead vendor. what we want to know is of course all the decisions that went into this failed site. greta, as you know, the tip of the iceberg is the failed site. going forward, we have to ask the question why is that t. that 58% of american counties will have only one or two companies to choose from and less choice in the private sector. most companies only bid the urban areas not the rural areas. >> i would like to see the contracts because i had a tweet from a viewer last week and she said usually in contracts they have testing requirements. i mean, first of all, i don't like no bid contracts with the government. these open-ended because that is ca-ching ca-ching for anyone not to do things in timely fashion. secondly the fact if it wasn't tested outrageous. >> the contract beginning the first document in the subpoena we are asking for. testing is a problem because right now you know you can't get in, let's ask the bigger question if it wasn't tested do you know if your information supposed to be secure getting out pretty easy to hack. >> the other thing i want to know about is how you determine eligibility for subsidies because people who are eligible should get subsidies i'm all for that i don't want people to get subsidies who shouldn't. we got a web site can't log on what proper who is should get a subsidy and who shouldn't. >> selling the subsidy at the front end. this is one of the things, greta. the decision was made in the last month to it make people essentially give their information so they can be told about a possible subsidy actually have to be told how what a good deal it is with united airline before you say where you are going. >> congressman, nice to see you. >> you are getting hit again. open season on your money, on your generosity, really? 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"the washington post" reporter stephens is here with the story. knives to see you. >> nice to be here. >> stunning long story in the "the washington post" yesterday. tell me what's going on with these nonprofits? at least some of them? >> well, they are losing a the lo of money. more than we ever knew. we spent many months. >> losing or getting ripped off. >> getting ripped off. some are just losing it mainly ripped off. a lot of scams. a lot of investment losses to ponzi schemes and things like that. huge numbers of dollars. the largest amount to one group we found was over $100 million to one university. it's starting my and my colleague spent months looking into this. what we found is significant diversion. a very boring term. >> on an irs form. >> it's on an irs form. financial disclosure form that all the bigger -- the bigger charities file every year. and there is this boring line. and if you check the box yes, that means that given nonprofit has lost a lot of money and they are supposed to explain. so we found over 1,000 nonprofits in recent years that have checked that box a huge amount lots to global fund to fight aids. what a wonderful group. lost over $40 million. funny irrelevant irregular >> they lost $60 million. >> and of course not -- people giving these organizations don't want to get robbed -- usually embezzled internally. forgone income to the treasury, too, right? >> oh yeah. >> how much does the u.s. treasury lose on these? >> we think that just from the tax breaks with charities that the treasury loses something like $100 billion a year. that is because they don't pay taxes if you give money to a charity you get to write that off.you and are are e taxes because charities aren't. which is fine if f. they are doing good work. however, if they're not looking after the money. allowing themselves to be ripped off and awful lot of these cases we found it's insider, it's the executive directors. long-time bookkeepers. volunteers. >> great story by the "the washington post." great job. >> thank you. >>> see you all tomorrow night right here at our new time 7 p.m. eastern. gretawire. open thread. good night from washington, d.c. and i know you have got a lot to say on gretawire. you better do there because the rest of us are going there. see you there. tomorrow night sean is at >>> all right. welcome to "red eye." thanks for the warning, producers. doing great. tonight this -- >> tonight are beautiful women becoming targets of fetish space freaks bent on creating inner stellar space colonies and victoria's secret? what are they hiding? the look that will make your soul vomit. >> and who is abducting our nude models and replacing them with replicas ? the stories hannity won't cover. none of these stories are on "red eye" tonight. >> let's welcome our guests. i am here with ann coulter, political common tater and author and columnist and she has a new book called "never trust a liberal
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mad as hell on thursday. thanks for watching tonight. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. remember, the spin stops here. definitely looking out for you. >>> developing tonight, a "the kelly file" exclusive. >> i thought i would be fake. >> very unrealistic. very unfair. >> this is not what we want. >> we're screwed. >> we sit down with seniors who were told they would not be able to keep their doctors or health care plans. >> you will hear from them and doctors they used to see about what went wrong here. plus, what's going on with the president's repeated promise. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. no one will take it away, no matter what. >> wait until you see what the white house is saying now. it only makes sense. if congress passes a law for all americans why wouldn't that apply to congress, too? tonight, senator rand paul's lonely fight to make it a reality. breaking tonight, fox news has confirmed that while the the president was promising you could keep your health care plan the white house has known for almost three years if not more that the promise wouldn't hold for millions of americans. we have evidence. good evening, everyone. i'm megyn kelly. americans heard this president say it over and over. if you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep them under obama care. many had doubts. one major concern that those buying insurance on the individual market, people without employer coverage would see their plans cancelled. why? those plans tend to be cheap with less benefits. obama care requires insurers to beep up coverage. that costs money. the fear was that insurers forced to offer more benefits would raise rates or dump policies all together. that's exactly what is happening. contrary to the president's explicit promises. listen. >> actually, any insurance you currently have would be grandfathered in so you could keep. so you could decide not to get in the exchange the better plan. i could keep my acme i insurance, just a high deductible catastrophic plan. i would not be required to get the better one. >> but that's not what's happening at all. exactly what he said would not happen is happening. you are required to get rid of the acme plan. you are required to buy one on the, change and it is costing americans more. so far nearly a million policies have been cancelled. over ten million more could end soon. 14 million. with the american people now demanding answers you can keep your plan, period, today turned into maybe for most. for the majority. well, some can. et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. here is former white house senior adviser david axelrod earlier and follow up from ed henry. >> most people will keep their own plans and you know it. the majority of people in this country, the vast majority of people in this country are keeping their plans. >> this morning david axelrod was pressed on the point and said the majority, the vast majority will get to keep their plans. he no longer works at that time white house. from the podium will you admit when the president said if you have a plan you will get to keep it and that was not true uh. >> well, let's be clear. the wha everybody said all along is there are going to be changes brought about that create minimum standards of coverage. >> right. then he also said if you like your plan you could keep it, period. we have dug up an irs form tonight from 2010 that shows this the administration knew that 10 million americans would not keep their plan, could not keep their doctor. yet the president went out as recently as 2012 and said if you like your plan you can keep it. meantime there is a regulation -- an irs regulation pushed by hhs, human services, that said estimated tens of millions would be dumped. mark thiesen from the american enterprise institute and speech writer for president george w. bush. this is it. it is one thing to say -- he said they were going to get to keep their plans, period. now this regulation shows that months after obama care was passed, july, it passed in march. july or before, i should say. they knew. they were estimating internally in the administration ten million people will lose insurance. >> you've got the smoking gun in your hand. they knew. when president obama looked the american people in the eye and said if you like your health insurance, you can keep your current plan, period, no matter what, that was a bald-faced lie. he intended -- in fact, i think they intended for these people to lose their health insurance. the reason for that is -- as you pointed out -- it will be up to 14 million people. why do they want them to lose insurance? they need them to move into the exchanges to subsidize poor people. the individual mandate is the most lucrative part -- excuse me, the individual market is the most lucrative segment of the health insurance industry because they don't use a lot of services and they are generally healthy. those are people they need to move into the exchanges in order to subsidize obama care. while president obama was going out there saying you won't lose your health insurance, period, all along they were planning for those people to lose their health insurance -- 14 million of them -- and move into the exchanges. >> as we watch the website fall apart, he dwunt have to worry. though the young people aren't signing up now because the website is a mess, he knows that they are being cancelled. that millions of americans will have no choice but to sit on that website for days on end eventually because he knows, as we all know now, that millions of americans are going to get cancelled. >> there's the uh rub. they didn't anticipate the failure of the website. if you are one of the 14 million or so people who are losing current health insurance you're stuck with two options. one is to pay these new premiums you can't afford because they are raising your insurance rates between 99% and 400%, or go into the exchanges except because the website doesn't work you can't get into the exchanges. what's going to happen is the unintended consequence is they are pushing millions of people out of health care they like into obama care except people can't get into obama care. so on january 1, you're going to have potentially millions of people who once had health care and no longer have it because of obama care. >> in that sound bite you have senator jon kyl asking the president what about the individual insurance market. what about people who have plans there. you are raising the requirements. that will cost more people cancelled. you heard the president specifically say it's not true. you can keep your acme plan if you like it. that is not true. mark, thank you. >> thank you. >> we have much more including this. in a "the kelly file" exclusive we sat down with a group of people from a growing group of americans losing their plans and doctors. we don't the know all of the reasons yet. we know the patients and figs believe it is due to obama care and they are not happy. >> i don't are want to change my doctor or go to another office. i'm happy. >> we got a letter in the mail. a cold letter. >> you get a letter in the mail? stating that the doctor is no longer in the plan. they don't give you a reason why. >> with your specialist, you have to find somebody different, too. there is a phone number in here. this letter that i can call. i'm saying, gee, what am i doing? shopping for groceries or what? this is a serious situation here. it's a health problem. >> this is not supposed to happen. they were supposed to be able to keep their coverage, keep their doctor who they have had relationships with for 10, 20 years. and the rug has been pulled out of these people. >> it makes you feel that a lot is not being told. about what it entails and how it will impact your life. >> government doesn't control people. we are human beings. they can run the white house, but they can't tell us what to do. what's in this letter is they are telling you what to do. i resent that. >> to start over again, it doesn't make it -- doesn't make sense. does not make centimeters. this is not what we want. this is not right that the government is dictating to me what i have to take. >> i thought i would be safe. i thought i would have insurance going forward. now i see it's a different ball game. >> particularly for seniors who need medical care the most. they probably see their doctor more often in a month than most middle-aged or young people do throughout the year. it's not fair to shake up their world in this way. >> you need a doctor who understands who has a heart. they don't care for the old people. they let them go, let them die. we all have to die sometime, we know that. but not when they say it. >> we have a bunch of 85-year-old people who are confused and angry. who's listening? i hope somebody. >> matt bennett, former white house deputy assistant and chris plant host of the chris plant show on wmal. chris, your thoughts? >> i hate to say "i told you so" but i think this is what republicans have been raising red flags about for three years now. honestly, this is one of the greatest bait and switch scams that america has seen. maybe any country has seen. if this were a private business or an industry that promised you can keep your doctor, keep your health insurance, it's going to save you $2,500 a year and you pougt it and found out none of this was true, people would be going to jail over there. the republicans have been the bad guys -- >> this has nothing to do -- >> go ahead, matt. >> this has nothing to do with the aca. you said it at the top. this is medicare. >> advantage. >> medicare advantage. these people had changes to their medicare advantage administered by private insurers. this wasn't the government taking away doctors. these were people who every year this happens. medicare advantage changes -- >> it changed thanks to obama care because they reduced the payment under medicare advantage. >> well, yes, right. but those payments change all the time. it's just a coincidence that it's happening at the same time as the rollout of the aca. people in the media are conflating these things. >> not just the media. >> wow. >> patients and doctors believe it is related to cuts made to medicare advantage. chris? >> that's an extraordinary fallback position for the democrats, but it is laughable on its face. okay? everybody is getting notices in the mail. like waiting for your draft notice to find out based on your lottery number. i got my letter last week. i self-insure. when obama care passed i was paying $321 a month. now as of last week it's $537 a month for myself. the woman with whom i live in sin also self-insures. our health insurance payments are now more than the mortgage payments. >> right. >> these guys knew it was programmed to do this all along. >> that's ridiculous. >> it's a scam. >> ridiculous. >> matt, there is a regulation that we are looking at now. internal revenue bulletin that says right here that this is july of 2010 when the administration had this july of 2010 obama care was passed march of 2010 where they specifically estimate that over 70% of the individual insurance market could have their plans cancelled because of obama care. >> there is a good reason for it. first of all, the president was talking about people with insurance on the individual market in march of 2010. these are grafathered. it's half of the individual market. >> but they are anticipating that the grandfathering won't work, that it will not cover over 70% of those in the market. >> the way the individual market works insurers cannot raise premiums under hipaa unless they cancel people. so every year they cancel them and -- >> you're making my point. they saw it coming as telling everybody they could keep the plan and keep the doctor. that's the problem. they shouldn't have said that. >> not only was it foreseeable. it's programmatic, built in by design. it was knowing, deliberate. i don't know how many ways i can say it. they knew all along. nanne see pelosi said we have to pass this piece of legislation to find out what's in it. >> we are finding out. >> we passed it and now we are finding out. >> i have to leave it there. we'll have you back. matt, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> still ahead sh president obama called massachusetts the model of a great health care system. should we worry the bay state could be on the verge of going single payer? 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>> well, it's funny. he's a great guy. he voted for romney care, supports obama care. then you do the math and he says all i wanted was single payer in the first place. that's what obama care supporters default to. they are watching the system collapse and the math doesn't work. in massachusetts we are the most expensive state in the country. want to be more expensive? be like us. it's 60 to 120 days for your first doctor visit. took me 60 days for my first appointment. it's so bad we have had three tax hikes since romneycare was implemented because the cost of state government health care exploding. 25 cents on the state dollar covered medical for us when romneycare passed. now it's more than 40 cents of every dollar the state collects paid out to romneycare. the system is breaking. >> the argument against it, we discussed it last week with the panel, if this was the plan for single payer and that's you get insurance from the feds. if this was the deal where we move to single payer how would it work? obama care seems to be collapsing on itself or in danger of that. >> the famous "saturday night live" sketch with christopher walken, more cow bell. this is more government cow bell. no matter how badly they screw it up, more. we have something in massachusetts call add global payment system. they changed the name. they say megyn, we'll give your doctor a certain amount of money. if you go one time, ten times or zero, the doctor gets the money. they are trying to control costs. they can't control it because they keep pouring government money into the system. single payer skip it is middleman, takes it from the your paycheck and gives it to the doctor. >> people believe that's where this is headed. whether the website is a disaster or not. >> we have 15 state senators of 40 now ready to vote for it now in massachusetts. in vermont it is supposed to happen by 2017. >> michael graham, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >>> if you are just joining us while the president was promising that you could keep your health care plan if you liked it the white house is known for at least three year that is the promise would not hold for millions of americans. so why did he keep coming out and saying that? 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what if something went wrong. wouldn't you want the doctor performing the abortion to have privileges at that time clinic? >> regardless of what happens during the abortion process, and we hope those instances are rare, any hospital will accept a patient. any hospital will accept someone who is in need. it would be against their oath. what the judge did in this case is say it is up constitutional to put these medically unnecessary burdens in front of women when they are having a safe and legal procedure. >> now can you have a facility in texas where none of the doctors have admitting privileges where abortions are performed? >> yes. that's true. >> doesn't that concern you at all that you could get an abortion -- >> admitting privileges within a certain range. i think the restriction was somewhere upwards of 30 miles around a center. it's not that doctors don't have admitting privileges anywhere near a health center. they are doctors. they have admitting privileges, period. >> i asked you before the segment because the thing weapon di davis was upset about, one of them, was where the line is draup on legal abortions in texas. they made it 20 weeks. there was a debate about whether it should be extended to 26 weeks as was the case. and as is the case in most states of the union. texas made it 20. is that being challenged now? >> it's not being challenged. i think most people, including planned parenthood will be taking on a lot of challenges around the 20-week bans. what this law was about, what this specific provision was about admitting privileges. it was about whether or not we should be allowing medical abortion as opposed to surgical abortion which we believe is all evidence points to the fact that it is increasingly much safer for -- >> i know you focus on that point. for the most part you have lost on that. you have to follow the guidelines. >> yeah, but the -- >> i want to ask you about that. whether people should be cheering wendy davis, her filibuster in arguing that healthy, viable -- potentially viable fetuses can be aborted at 25 weeks and 26 weeks. >> they are not viable. >> they're in there, sucking their thumbs, yawning. >> they are not viable outside the wom the womb. >> this is t not about -- >> give me a real answer. eye gnome not taking a position. but it is a fact that a 26-week old fetus is kicking, yawning, sucking its thumb. that baby -- that fetus can be aborted. planned parenthood want it is baby to continue to be aborted. perfectly he will the think with no developmental defects. >> no, megyn. what planned parenthood wants is the right for every woman the to make this decision, a very difficult decision in consultation with her family, her doctor, her god. >> but you have to draw the line somewhere. >> the line was drawn by the supreme court. 40 years ago. we are adhering to the law. with bills like hb -- across the country have been trying to do is under mine a woman's right. it's trying to -- sp it under mining her right to choose or restricting it? there is eliminating it which is unconstitutional. >> it is putting an undue burden that might as well make it a right in name only. it's taking a woman in lubbock, texas who has to travel 350 miles to el paso for a procedure. it's like me driving to virginia. it's an undue burden we are putting on women. that's the obstacle we are talking about. >> planned parenthood did say you can't do that with the admitting privileges. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >>> next we'll show you the evidence the administration did know millions of americans would lose their health care plans even as the president specifically promised the opposite. we have it in writing. plus, bus loads of unhappy coal miners descending on washington at this moment. one joins us live just ahead. ♪ wow...look at you. i've always tried to give it my best shot. these days i'm living with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. at first, i took warfarin, but i wondered, "could i up my game?" my doctor told me about eliquis. and three important reasons to take eliquis instead. one, in a clinical trial, eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin. two, eliquis had less major bleeding than warfarin. and three... unlike warfarin, there's no routine blood testing. 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor today if eliquis is right for you. >>> breaking tonight, just about an hour ago fox news confirmed that the administration knew as early as 2010 that millions of americans would lose their health care plans, even as the president explicitly promised the opposite. while the president said the plans would be grandfathered, so if you had a plan you liked when obama care was passed you could keep your plan. we have found an irs bulletin from july of 2010, obama care passed march of 2010 saying, quote, a reasonable range for the percentage of individual policies that would terminate and therefore relinquish their grandfather status is 40% to 67% of those on the individual market. joining me now kristen anderson, vice president of the winston group and uh republican pollster and mark hannah democratic analyst. the president specifically said -- let me tell you what happened. they met. they had a health care summit. john kyl said to him at that summit, mr. president, i'm concerned about the individual market. you're going to require that these policies offer goodies in them. that will jack up rates or the insurers will say, i'm cancelling these policies. the president said, no, no, i will grandfather those in. people will be protected. here was the president february 2010. >> actually, any insurance you currently have would be grandfathered in so you could keep. you could decide not to get the better plan in the exchange. i could keep my acme insurance, just a high deductible catastrophic plan. i would not be required to get the better one. >> four months later an administrative memo talking about how over 70% of the individual insurance market would be cancelled and the president in 2012, mark, came out and reiterated what he said that if you like your plan you can keep it. i ask you what i asked dr. emanuel on friday. was he intentionally misleading or was he grossly mistaken. >> he was doing neither. what he said was correct. if you had a plan before 2010 that hasn't changed, that your premiums hasn't increased, the terms haven't changed you can keep it. let's put numbers in perspective. >> wait a minute. >> no, no, no. >> hold on. >> let's stay on point. hold on. it's not true. almost a million people have been cancelled so far, mark. the estimates are perhaps as many as 14 million could be cancelled soon. >> what's key -- >> let hark respond and then you can have the floor, kristen. go ahead, mark. >> right. these plans that don't offer the basic protections that the president has been saying all along are required in any insurance plan unless it is grandfathered beforehand, the plans are illegal and the president has been saying that forever. the individual marketplace for insurance is only 5% of the people in this country. >> we are talking about millions of people. >> 3%. >> 14 million people. kristen, i will give you the floor. >> megyn, three times as many -- six times as many of the people don't have insurance whatsoever now. >> mark, he said, period. he said if you like it -- >> they can't keep it. >> i don't see -- >> i gave kristen the floor. go ahead. >> there is something critical in what mark said that opened the door to this if you like your plan you can keep it. if any piece of the plan changed at all then the grandfathering is thrown out the window. >> exactly. >> it's a little tiny loophole that came fromys the law that i allowing the law to get rid of the policies. this whole if you like your plan, you can keep it takes a shot at a republican president. it's the read my lips, no new taxes of this president. this isn't a line he said one time in a speech and may have been an exaggeration. this was a core piece of the argument for why people should support the law. if you like your plan, you can keep it. the same people who use this individual insurance are entrepreneurs, people who need to insure themselves. >> here is the thing, mark. if he wanted to be honest he shouldn't have said, period. i want the 14 million americans i believe will lose their individual plans the to understand it is a risk. they can call their representative and tell them to vote for obama care or not based on the full disclosure of the information. >> let's wonder why the plans are illegal in the first place. >> no, no. respond to my -- i know you can bridge away to a happy place for you. i get it. that's a skill -- debate skills. >> i heem a happy man right now. >> speak to my point. let's have a substantive discussion. why did he say "period"? why not "sas trix"? >> for emphasis probably. the guest on before said exactly that. any time there is an incremental change in your plan and you know insurance companies change plans all the time and send you a letter and it's in the fine print. nobody reads it. hhs under kathleen sebelius made it public. reporters had access to the information all along. the fact is those with skimpy benefits and high out of pocket costs so taxpayers have to pay -- >> kristen, it was my fault. it was the media's fault and the american people's fault because they should have understood period didn't mean period. >> they are trying to go into another pint .that it never should have been considered insurance in the first place. that exposes what it's about. if you go back the to the supreme court argument over whether it was constitutional the debate centered on whether hips was something everybody would need and it was constitutional to mandate it. the question is was health insurance is same as health care? conservatives say it is not. health insurance is something that should protect you against risk. not be the mechanism of payment for every health care service in your life. >> you were grandfathered unless they changed any part of your policy. then guess what. the department of health and human services wrote regulations that sonar rowed what the insurance companies could do that virtually all of the policies had to be changed. that's why millions are being cancelled. kathleen sebelius did it and the president knew it. >> and the insurance companies are cancelling it. >> the president knew it, mark. >> the ceo d -- >> he knew or he negligently didn't know. that's the question. we have rand paul coming up. good debate. >> good to see you, megyn. >> okay. taking your thoughts on twitter. >>> after a dwunman shot up a christian wedding we are hearing about lashings over communion wine and senator rand paul is next on the latest victims on what he calls the war on christians. 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>> well, ever since i ran for office people would say, you know, what makes me mad is congress passes law and exempts themselves. my amendment would say congress shall pass no law that they exempt themselves or the president or the supreme court. one of the particularly galling things about obama care is the chief justices who decided the case don't have to live under it. they get special health care and don't live under obama care. that's wrong. >> the odds of this passing -- right, because to get a constitutional amendment through you three-fifths of the states, three-fourths of the states. so the odds of getting it through are slim. >> it will take an enormous ground swell. there is a lot of movement for this republican, democrat or independent. there is a great movement for term limits and a lot of d dissatisfaction with washington now. if these were put to the american people you would get a 75% vote for term limits and congress shall not exempt itself. >> this is an evident to hold congress accountable. we have been talking about executive accountability. where is that? spefb asking person after person who will be held responsible for the disastrous rollout of obama care. the money that it's cost americans, the time it cost the american people. how do you and congress go about exacting that? >> well, i think we publically can point out the problems and hypocrisy. interestingly, the government was shut down with democrats refusing to accept a one-year delay on the individual mandate. now you've got a dozen of them saying, guess what, it is a horrible rollout. we are now in favor of the individual mandate delay. there is irony. the democrats shut down government because they wouldn't accept a one-year the delay. now it's so bad they are in favor. >>. >> we did a piece on how obama care was pushed through the u.s. congress. we talked about the fact that scott brown was elected. he ran on being the no vote that would stop obama care with. then harry reid changed the rules and said, i can pass a bill that will change one-sixth of the u.s. economy by deeming it passed as long as i have 51 votes i good. could you undo obama care with 51 votes if republicans got control of the senate? >> perhaps. this is the danger of the conference committees where things go together on a budget. they are talking about convening a conference committee to get to compromise. what comes out can be passed sometimes with 51% vote. it makes it easier. some of us objected to the budget going unless the democrats would agree not to raise the debt ceiling through 51%. >> mm-hmm. >> part of the reason for having super majorities required was to slow things down and have more debate and to make it more difficult for one party to run rough shod over the country. >> you have a democrat in the white house. president obama won't be signing that bill soon. let me ask you about something else that's been getting attention in the news. that's you're speaking out on what you call the war against christians. this various countries in this world and in particular muslim-dominated countries. we have seen more violence against christians in egypt. there was a story today out of iran with 80 lashes for four christians. they had to be lashed for drinking wine at communion. you have been outspoken saying the administration isn't doing enough to call attention to it. what would you have them do? >> about a month ago, a christian village in syria was overrun and a young man was told to convert or die. he said, i am a christian. if you must kill me for being a christian, do it. these were his last words. the president needs to speak out about this. we need to not gloss over that there is a religious component to this. since 9/11 we have been apologizing and saying, oh, this isn't the islamic religion. it's not all of islam. it's a minority, but it is not one in a million. it's about 10%. in england there were 500,000 people who said the subway bombings, i sympathize with killing british citizens in the subway through violence. that's alarming that there is that large of a percentage -- 10 to 15% of islam saying violence against christians and unarmed noncombatants is okay. that's alarming. >> what should our president be doing differently on that? >> speak out about it. we should quit sending money to these countries. we spend over a million dollars to pakistan. there is a woman on death row for blasphemy. she said she drew water from a muslim well and they beat her and charged her with blaspheming. she said she just tried to drink from a muslim's well. the president shouldn't send money. no more money to countries killing christians, period. >> senator rand paul, thank you, sir. >> thank you. 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"hannity" at the top of the hour. >> promises mean something. >> they should. >> we don't agree but this is his biggest achievement. the thing for which history will judge barack obama one way or the other. you would think he would have at least gotten the website correct. how hard is that to do that correctly? (son) ok. feather it out. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in cond, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) st like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he's not gonna wreck the car. (dad) no fighting in the road, please. (d) put your blinker on. (son) you didn't even give me a chance! (dad) ok. (mom vo) we got the new subaru because nothing could break our old one. (dad) ok. (son) what the heck? let go of my seat! (mom vo) i hope the same goes for my husband. (dad) you guys are doing a great job. seriously. 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! >> obama care is the test of this new liberalism. >> insurance is real important. >> and today it hangs in the balance of a website or a promise here and there. >> it doesn't mean any government takeover. >> what the president said and everybody said all along, there are going to be changes brought about by the affordable care act. >> if the president knew that these letters were coming, that raises some serious questions about the sales job of obama care. >> these folks need to stop scaring everybody. >> why are you cutting these people from their insurance? >> well, dave, we're not cutting people. we're actually transitioning people. >> create minimum standards of coverage. minimum services that every insurance plan has to provide. >> if he does not succeed with obama care, expansive liberalism, i think it will be set back a full generation. >> i refuse to see this country in all of us shrink from these struggles, which are our responsibility and our time. because what we are now talking about in our children's day will seem to be the ordinary business of government. >> wow. jfk
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are visiting health care.gov. >> hollywood liberals are turning on team obama care. >> unfortunately the site was only designed to handle six users at a time. >> remember, you were warned. >> earlier today the president sealed the deal on health care signing the bill into law and forever changing the united states of america. >> we look back at some of our most chilling obama care predictions. "hannity" starts right here, right now. >> welcome to "hannity." surprise, surprise, obama care still isn't working correctly. excuses other the effects of the law and all the obama care lies. in a minute we'll check in with rudy giuliani here in studio to react to this. first let's remind viewers about the biggest tall tale of them all when it comes to the train wreck. look at this. >> under the proposal if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. if you have health insurance, we'll make sure it is more affordable, more secure. if you like your health care plan, you can keep it. >> you can keep your health insurance.
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know? isn't he president? isn't obama care his program. first it was the rollout flop and now -- >> according to news reports, the obama administration knew for at least three years that millions, millions of americans would not be able to keep their health coverage. >> now, we know this morning is the president knew these letters were coming. >> the president kept saying, you know, if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. your premiums will be going down. but, in fact, the letter is completing contradictory to that. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. period. first, no matter what you've heard, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor under the reform proposals that we put forth. if you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep it. >> if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. i don't want to interfere with people's relationship between them and their doctor. >> as the law state
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. >>> crossfire starts right now. >>> tonight on crossfire, obama care hindsight. when the president said -- >> ail be able to keep your health care plan, period. >> did he know millions of plans would be canceled? should she have known the website wasn't? on the left, stephanie cutter. on the right, newt gingrich. in the crossfire, one who supports obama care and one who opposes it. who knew and who should have known, tonight on crossfire. >>> welcome to crossfire. i'm newt gingrich on the right. >> and i'm stephanie cutter on the left. in the crossfire tonight, congressman keith ellison and bill crystal from the editor of the weekly standard. over the last 24 hours some people would have you believe that president obama intentionally misled you about what happened to your health care plan after the affordable health care plan passed. that's not true. if you had a plan before the law passed in 2010 the president said you could keep it, and you can, unless your insurer makes major changes. that turnover has been going on for decades. listen to one of florida's top executives talking about
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people worried that they are going to lose their medical plans because of obama care. are you worried? >> no. >> yes, yes. >> they are not worried? >> that's not low information voting. that's no information voting f.knowledge were water, that audience is death valley. but now we're reminded of old news, the white house new millions of people would lose their health insurance, well, at least obama was honest with us. >> if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, can you keep your plan. if americans like their doctor, they will keep their doctor, and if you like your insurance plan you will keep it. no one will be able to take that away from you. if you're one of the more than 250 million americans who already have health insurance, will you keep your health insurance. if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. >> he said period. even his punctuation lies. now the white house calls this a normal turnover, s
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for the obama care website, but is this just the start of the apology tour tied to the law? this is "special report." >>> good evening. i'm bret baier. the i told you sos are coming hot and heavy from the obama care critics ripping the president over his promise. more and more people are coming to realize that definitively is not true. we have fox team coverage tonight. mike emanuel on capitol hill with bureaucrats under fire and under the bus, but we begin with chief white house correspondent ed henry. and the avalanche of outrage over an off repeated promise. good evening, ed. >> reporter: good evening, bret. they are feeling that outrage and feeling a bit under siege after a wave of reports questioning the president's veracity. and tonight they're trying to push back. white house aides began mounting an aggressive defense of why potentially millions of people who buy their own insurance were told by president obama they could keep their plans yet suddenly cannot. >> what we're talking about here is the 5% in the country who currently purchase insurance on the individual market. a
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it. president obama's broken promises, and misleading statements about obama care are now in the pantheon of international slugs. every newspaper in america are filled with documented proof that millions of americans are losing her to doctors, are losing her to plans and we know the white house knew this would happen all along as much as three years ago. all that sets the stage for what should be a hot and controversial hearing on capitol hill tomorrow morning, featuring hha secretary kathleen sebelius and the congressman who was chairing the committee that will be grilling sebelius is about to join us. don't let all the obama news cry out, we closed at a new all time high for the dow and another all time high for the s&p 500 t. ramally keeps rolling along. all those stories, much more coming up on "the kudlow report" beginning right now. now, before we get to obama care. we got to show you the markets, because it was a record day on wall street. kayla joins us with all the key details. goef. >> good evening, larry the dow closing at an all time high, if it feels like de ja vu, i
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staffer that has been an enthusiastic proponent of obama care. she said things are changing and she doesn't know why. >>> after six decades of funs and parodies, is "mad" magazine still hooking kids on satire? >>> good afternoon. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. top intelligence official in the country and the director of the nsa are testifying on capitol hill as we speak. when pressed about report the nsa has been tapping the phones of foreign leaders, even allies, director of national intelligence, james clapper said that's long been par for the course plans and intentions of foreign leaders would be important for the united states to know. >> that's a hearty perennial as long as i have been in the -- intelligence business, 50 years, leadership intentions in whatever form that's expressed is kind of a basic tenant of what we aring to collect and analyze. >> the white house has long denied german media reports president obama was told in 2010 that the nsa was spying. tapping the phone of german chancellor angela americael and letting it go on. they press whether the white ho
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reimbur reimbursed. >> thank you. we'll see you tomorrow. >> more problems for obama care in the great northwest. an alaska company is giving up trying to enroll people. can the numbers still add up if people check out? lou dobbes is host of fox business network. wol start with enroll alaska, it was designed to help people enroll in obama care, but they say they have given up because there is a problem with the subsidy calculator and there is another organization in washington state, i think it is the state exchange is also having a math problem with the calculator on the web site. are these just glitches or a national problem. >> the national term is using glitches to talk about fundmental issues and problems and failures on health care.gov. and in the case of enroll alaska, when obama care rolled out, they have enrolled three folks in obama care. in the case of the washington exchange, they like alaska enroll alaska, can't get an accurate number on the number or the amount of the subsidy available to those who want to enroll. it is a massive, massive mistake. the exchanges, the state
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from washington. it was a repeated promise from president obama. if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan he said it often. but an insurance industry source now says most americans on individual plans will see their existing coverage changed or even cancel. the white house says obama care will mean better more comprehensive coverage but at what the cost? the head of the agency in charge of creating the obama care website was asked about that at a congressional hearing today. >> this man wrote me and said, my wife has been recently informed by her insurance carrier that her health care policy does not comply with the affordable care act. now we must purchase a new policy to get the aim coverage at an 18% increase in our premium. so what happened to the if you like your insurance, you can keep it. >> what i would tell that individual is if their carrier is telling them they're changing the plan and offering an increase, that they would need to go take a look what's available in their state and in their market. which is certainly something that's available
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at their job that meets your definition of credible insurance, then they can't get obama care subsidies. if a person is 25 years old and they go on the website and they say their income is x and that is eligible for subsidy, they can get that subsidy. but if they were eligible to be on their parents plan, they're not allowed to get that subsidy. >> that's right. >> the question is are you filtering that? because here's the problem. if you get this wrong, the way the law works is you have to take that money back in their tax refund. tax refunds matter. people plan their lives around their tax refunds. they plan their spring breaks for their kids, their car payments, their bills. what people in this country don't yet know is that if you get this wrong, which you've already acknowledged you're not doing it right, they're going to get their tax refund taken away from them because they will have signed up for a subsidy which they weren't eligible for which they didn't know. >> if you've been on the site, this is part of the clear instructions, including the under age 26, including the fact t
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story now. >> "halftime" is over. the second half of your trading day begins now. >> obama care, a deep dive this hour and things just got a little bit worse for the white house after an nbc news report saying the president did know that many people would lose their health insurance plans. those plans would basically be canceled. our big question today, what does this all mean for the so-called cadillac plans, these are very good plans sponsored by employers, will costs increase? could they go away? what's going to happen to them? and do the higher costs of obama care and the other issues surrounding it, will democratic congressmen start cracking, breaking with the white house? change their minds, go against obama care. sue is down at the nyse. hi. >> hi. we begin with breaking news, but not here at the nyse. at the nasdaq. seema moody is there with the latest on trading glitches and halts earlier today. what's the latest? >> sue, the nasdaq indexes have resumed trading after an unusual halt where the nasdaq composite, the nasdaq 100 among other nasdaq specific indexes were not upd
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on obama care. thanks very much for watching. "news room" with brooke baldwin continues right now. >> wolf, thank you. great to be with you. i'm brooke baldwin. we continue here today. the world wants answers. right now this congressional hearing is underway. when you look at some of these pictures, this wasn't too long ago, these protesters here in the back of this room. they're holding up signs as the head of the nsa and the president's top intelligence chief are both there to testify as anger and suspicion grow over accusations of widespread u.s. spying. the worst of it, tapping the phones of u.s. allies. >> we, all of us in the intelligence community, are very much aware that the recent unauthorized disclosures have raised concerns that you've alluded to, both here in congress and across the nation, about our intelligence activities. we know the public wants to understand how its intelligence community uses its special tools and authorities and to judge whether we can be trusted to use them appropriately. we believe we have been lawful and at the rigorous oversight we've opera
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right now, come back another time. when the affordable care -- the prescription part d went online during the bush administration, there were lots of problems and a will lot of republicans said at that time, hey, it's computer glitches. so i think you'll have to give this a little time. people have the better part of six months to sign up. it will be all right. >> it may be more than that. the nsa has a 1.4 billion utah data storage facility that keeps burning up due to electrical surges. ten meltdowns in the first 13 months. >> there are big website problems with obama care. i think what is refreshing right now is crickets of this obama care are starting to look at how do we fix it? how to fund this thing, we can't accept it as the new law. and we should remember that as this program was rolled out in massachusetts in 2006, it took roughly three years before major problems with the system began to get fixed. so, i think insurance companies involved with this and analysts i talked with will tell you the insurance companies want to wait until they are not going to rush to judgment in the first three weeks based on whether or not there were web glitches. >> 36 states are affected by this. what do you think? >> call it what you will. whatever you think about the whole concept and idea of obama care, the execution has been disastrous. this undermined a lot of confidence in the program, undermined confidence in the program. jeff happens to be an extraordinarily talented person and he may be able to cure it. i don't think it's going to happen in the next two or three weeks. it will take a bit of time and people are now really hurting because a lot of their existing health insurance programs have gotten all up because they tried to process this things through this website, so there is a lot of confusion and a lot of problems going along with it and it's a real black mark. >> a laughing stock. >> yes. >> again, if they clear it up, this will all pass away. if this affects the program, as mort is saying, this is going to be a permanent stain on the obama administration and the whole idea of government as efficient and effective. >> funny that didn't half after the prescription part d had problems and nobody has given up, i believe, twitter had problems. i believe the rollout of the iphone, apple had problems. people -- excuse me, people who are going on this website with most of them would crawl over broken glass in order to get health coverage. and when they are not sitting home waiting for the cable guy to come, you know, people put up with inconvenience in a lot of areas and it's going to get better. >> did anybody buy insurance through the exchanges? >> me? >> 700,000 people have completed it. >> how many millions who weren't able to get through. >> the very trouble things here, john, is that the exchange is the heart of this program. the heart is not working in the first few weeks scares everybody involved. you can use the phone. it's high-tech. but a phone bank -- >> here's the data. delaware had one enrollee. alaska 7. wisconsin had 50. oregon none. south carolina 23. the white house had expected 494,000 signups in october and 2 million by december 15. that speaks for itself. exit question. does the rollout of obama care vindicate the gop's demand for delay? yes or no? >> not only that. five democratic senators who will go for it, will get a delay and vindicate the tea party's second position. >> they put in a six-week delay. already time built in, no penalizing, no mandate to pay the penalty until after march. it's only october. there is time here. take a deep breath, pat. and look at some of the coverage around the country and there are a lot of positive stories in every state of people who are coming on to this exchange and grateful that insurance is available to them. >> technology is not president obama's long suit. >> i disagree. >> the same thing happened with solyndra. >> his campaign was incredible. >> there you are. politics, right? >> yeah, obama or politics? >> how can they have failed there with their major program? >> contractors and it's a huge undertaking. >> look, whatever it is, you can say how many contractors there are. it is an for this administration because the way they presented this, nobody anticipated this and nobody had any reason to anticipate it. they screwed it up and there's no other way to look at it. >> i think you summarize it well. don't forget, you can watch us on the web at any time from anywhere in the world at mclaughlin.com. issue two, gop slippage. >> republicans hold the majority in the u.s. house of representatives. 232 republicans, 200 democrats. with an election year looming in 2014, next year, republicans obviously hope to hold on to the house and to better reach groups that did not vote in high margins for them in the last election, 2012. but, new polling data taken following the 16 day long government shutdown holds dire news for the gop. when asked who was responsible for the partial shutdown of the partial government, 53% of americans say congressional republicans. compared to 29%, president obama. 56% of americans consider the republican party as too extreme. compared to 48% who said the same in march. only 7 months ago. when asked if the election for the house of representatives were held today, 49% say they would vote for the democratic candidate as compared to 38% the republican candidate. and 11 point margin of difference. >> question, why aren't republicans doing better and where is the soul of the republican party? pat buchanan. >> the heart and soul is out in the country. it's at the grass roots, it's populous, it's conservative, it is traditionalist and wants to fight. no doubt the power, a lot of the power is located here in d.c. but in the long run, john, the republican party is facing demographic death. 90% of mitt romney's vote came from white americans and they have now fallen to 73% of the electorate and 63% of the population and it is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. >> why? >> it's because of the mass immigration, the change in demography. if you take the three minorities, asians, african americans, which are 40% of the country, they vote 80% democratic and that is growing gradually and gradually and gradually. and the death of the republican party as we knew it is inevitable. >> really? >> you shouldn't have to be a white european to like the republican party. the republican party appealed to people beyond that particular demographic throughout its history. republicans today are so obsessed with their dislike of this president. dislike of obama care and offering no positive ideas at all. they are dominated by saying no to anything that the president wants to do and they are fighting among themselves. you have the so-called insurgent republicans determined to kill off all of the traditional republicans in the primaries. so, i think it's tempting for democrats to just sit back and let the destruction continue. but we need two viable parties in this country. >> and you sought this out? >> away from the bluster and politics in washington and the mainstream media about this, the real question is, which wing of the republican party can raise more money over the next year going into the midterm elections? is it the tea party extremist wing calling for government shutdowns or the moderate center, the power base of the party in washington? that's an open question. so my answer to your first question, it's a divided soul. >> the job market is poor. who has more responsible for that in the eyes of the american people? the democrats or the republicans? >> the republicans in my judgment, if they don't focus on the weak economy, they don't deserve to be in power. this is an obvious answer. 24million people in america who are out of work or given up looking for work. we have the worst employment since the great depression. somebody has to be able to say hey, the government, the obama administration is responsible for this and the republicans can't make an issue out of it. >> who can leave the republicans at this difficult time? is it ted cruise of texas? >> there will be out of power for about generation. >> really? >> yes. >> why do you say that? >> because he is the far right of the american public and on the far right of the american people. he's an intelligent guy. he doesn't deserve -- >> he is extremely popular in texas. >> he isn't going to win the election for the republicans. the guy who can win the election is somebody like jeb bush who is a moderate, very effective governor. >> i think he is -- you are missing the problem, john. look, we now have half the american people are getting benefits directly from governor, including old folks and everyone else and a diminishing half is paying. there's less and less reason for that one-half to get benefits and pays no taxes. why would you vote for a party that cuts taxes you don't pay? >> obama's job approval has dropped and now 44.5%, hitting a low of 41% at the height of the shutdown. what does that slippage tell you? does it tell you the g.o.p. or obama has escaped the shutdown? what it tells you, if i may say so, is they don't think he is an outstanding leader. i'm not saying he's a terrible leader, but he's not a real leader. what they do know. >> is it psychoanalysis time? >> it is far better than anybody else in the country. 44 is not bad. >> and every program he puts out, the republicans say no. immigration reform is the next one out there and the republicans say no? that's a political gift to democrats and the president. >> republicans are to blame. issue three, u.s. tax offense tango. >> we believe if pakistan is secure and peaceful and prosperous, that is not only good for pakistan, it's good for the region and it's good for the world. we work to discuss the accommodations by the corporation. broad based stable partnership founded on the principles of mutual respect. >> president obama met with pakistani prime minister this week. the first time the two have ever met in person. pakistan is a member of the nine member nuclear bomb club. in recent years, the u.s. pakistan relationship has been proper. but to some extent, strained notably. one, bin laden raid. u.s. navy seals raided a compound of osama bin laden and killed him in may 2011. on pakistani soil. two, friendly fire. a u.s. air strike in november 2011 two years ago mistakenly struck a pakistani army post on afghan, pakistani border. pakistan retaliated by closing a key military supply route for u.s. troops stationed in neighboring afghanistan. three, taliban ties. pakistan has a historical connection to the taliban. islamabad helped the group gain power in afghanistan in the mid 1990s. how deep those ties may still go is a source of watchful concern between the u.s. and pakistan. four. drone strikes. the u.s. targets suspected militants and pakistan's northwest triable region. near pakistan's border with afghanistan. unfortunately, drones can mistakenly kill pakistani civilians as happened in pakistan's area. drone strikes are highly unpopular, even hateful to pakistan's public. questions and sharply criticized the u.s. on their legality. the prime minister emphasized the horror. >> i also brought up the issue of drones in our meeting. emphasizing the need for an end to such strikes. >> despite its rough spots, the u.s. needs pakistan and 15 months, u.s. combat troops will exit afghanistan and the shortest route out is through pakistan to a sea port for troop transfer and pakistan needs the u.s. notably u.s. aid, $1.6 billion in aid, which by the way, was released contemporaneously with his visit. in u.s. aid dispursements, pakistan is the fourth largest recipient. preceded only by afghanistan, israel, and iraq. >> question, is pakistan prime minister determined to turn over a new leaf when it comes to the drone attacks? taylor. >> the answer is no, john. what is happening here is very complicated situation. it is influenced by the domestic politics inside pakistan where people are pushing back against the very fragile civilian government. it is new, it's the first democratically elected government. they are trying to hold up and a lot of criticism and backlash to u.s. drone strikes having a foreign power all the way on this side of the world, kill innocent civilians with remote missiles from remote control airplanes. >> let him finish. >> at the same time, as eleanor was going to say, a big story about cia and pakistani intelligence collusion over the drone program which suggests that his people are working with washington. there is still more than meets the eye here. what is the strategic interest for the united states to have this relationship with pakistan? the united states wants to get out of afghanistan. the pakistanis are paranoid that that's going to lead to a rise of influence of the indians in afghanistan. >> left alone. >> the pakistanis are very close ally with the chinese and the united states are very close ally with the indians. there's a possible realignment happening in rete john now that osama bin laden has been killed. >> a great concern to the united states. >> we'll be coming home from pakistan and i'll tell you what. there's no country on earth, there's no country on earth where the americans are more hated than the pakistan, which was a loyal, reliable ally to the nixon, kissinger. they feel we abandoned them, they went to india and we left them behind and after we did the number on the soviets in afghanistan. i think we'll do it again. >> this was a positive meeting between these two leaders. whatever country they are from, and what they say in private are two things. much more going on beneath the surface. >> guess who is building two high powered nuclear plants? the chinese. put that in your pipe and smoke it, pat. issue four, economic fright night. >> september's job report released by the labor department a week before halloween. because of delays caused by the government shutdown, has thrown a gloomy spell over economic forecasts. the economy added a chilly, 148,000 jobs in september. this anemic september number brings the average for the third quarter to 129,000 net jobs monthly. far below the red hot average of 200,000 jobs earlier the year. unemployment dipped from 7.3% to 7.2%. due in part to another 136,000 workers dropping out of the work force. counting those who want full- time work but can't find it, the unemployment rate is 13.6%. over 90 million working age americans are now idle, up 10 million since president obama took office. for every three americans who have jobs, there are two working age adults who are no longer looking for work. this spooky jobs report along with the effects of the 16 day government shutdown caused economists to scroll back their forecast for growth this year to barely 2%. these forecasts have sent shivers up the backs of retarials whose sales are haunted by another round of budget negotiations between president obama and the congress due to conclude in december. some analysts see this year's combination of decelerating as a witch's brew for the economy. but thanksgiving and beyond. >> question, mort, peer into your crystal ball and tell us what the latest jobs report is. >> it does speak to the very serious weakness of the economy in the contest of the largest fiscal and monetary stimulous in our history. just to compare it, we aren't growing at 2%. the economy is growing, but a good chunk of it is because of inventory of cumulation. if you take that out, we are growing less than 1.5%. this compares to every previous recovery from a recession where in four years, the average rate of growth was 4.1%. for us, the four-year average is 1.7%. we have had a huge, huge weakness despite the fiscal stimulous. the money we are spending is not going to build up the capital base both in terms of intellectual capital and business capital. that is going to create a platform for future growth in the economy. so i think we have real things to worry about in this economy and a way we have not seen. >> so no tapering of the qe3 in the forseeable future, even with the arrival of the new head of the fed. >> quite the opposite, janet, who is the new fed chairperson, she is the two main objectives of the federal reserve, one is employment or unemployment and the other is inflation. she is not going to concentrate on inflation. that is not an issue. unemployment is a real issue. she's going to do whatever she can to stimulate the creation of jobs in this country. >> i'm all for those monetary policies and for pumping in the stimulous. what is opening against that is austerity. it's not going to work anymore it has or is working in europe. they just -- it's fine to get the debt under control, but it's out in the future. right now the focus should be getting america back to work and getting this economy up and running and the impasse between the house republicans primarily and this president are really dragging down the economy. >> the new novel of the work force is the decline to 62.2% of its potential. >> what do you think of that? >> 68 million baby boomer who's are marching into retirement to social security and medicare in the next 18 years. after the sequester, you'll get the sequester whether you like it or not. the key question is whether inflation pops up. if it does, and janet pulls back on qe3, you're going to see interest rates pop up and have a real problem in 2014 for everyone. >> do you think they are going to experience a grim future? >> i think it's possible. i think it's going to take about 10 to 15 years for the united states to pull out of the greatest economic downturn since the great depression. but i also think that the dooms saying that goes on in the media these days is late l bit over baring. the economy stabilized than where it was three, four years ago. >> predictions. >> u.s. and iran will reach a deal. >> carrie wins big in virginia with a huge gender cap. >> chemical weapons get used in syria before the war there is over. >> mort. >> weak unemployment numbers will continue through the middle of next year and be the major issue. >> i predict edward snowden's revelations of widespread u.s. eves dropping on top european leaders will derail president obama's u.s., europe, free trade talks. 35 of them. bye bye. >> rose: welcome to the program, tonight a former chairman of the federal reserve, alan greenspan, his new book is called the map and the territory, risk human nature and the future of forecasting. >> i was already a economist but i was also what is known as a logical massachusettsiveist -- positivist which says if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist. that spritd me from the understanding how humans behavior, the irrational is not worth doing. she demonstrated to me that i was wrong. that didn't have a full effect immediately but it grew on me. and i look back now and i think some of my views involved in recent years to fall back on if i was stillwnhi wouldn't read t. >> rose: we conclude this evening with david kelly and his brother tom kelly. they have written a new book called creative confidence. >> i'm thinking is that methodology that we've always used as designers. you know, it's kind of like, you know, it's a process like when a writer has a blank piece of paper and can't figure out how to get started, it's our way of getting started on that. you know, understanding humans, building prototypes and telling stories about the future. i mean, the designers have this lovely job, inherently positive profession because your always painting a picture of the future with your new idea in it and see if anybody like it. >> rose: alan greenspan, david kelly, tom kelly when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> let me start off by just saying, we had a terrible problem forecasting, because when we look out into the future, it is incredibly foggy and i want to try to indicate what it is and why that is the problem. >> rose: alan greenspan is here. he was chairman of the federal reserve from 1987 to 2006. he has spent a lifetime studying the complexity of the u.s. and global economy. the financial crises of 2008 took nearly everyone by surprise, leading economists and the brightest minds on wall street were forced to rethink fundmental functions, the map and the territory, risk, human nature and the future of forecasting is a guide to measuring economic vacialsz -- variables one thought to be immeasurable. i'm glad to have alan greenspan back at this table. welcome. how do we decide on the map and the territory. >> it's a little abstract and that's what it's supposed to be. the map is supposed to be the conceptual framework what we're doing with and the territory is reality. and economists always try to get the two of them to come together and a good deal of the times we fail. >> rose: all right. let's talk about all that. role clip. this is a clip with you and i n an interview before you wrote this book. >> something you can never the quite cal brate is the human emotional aspect of markets. >> i'm glad you raised that issue charlie because i'm just starting to write a economic. it's call the economytrics of human name. >> rose: so you do put numbers on. >> i don't know that yet. i know i can do it in a number of instances but whether i can
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right. a lot more still ahead on "street signs." the head of obama care website gets grilled by congress plus as the dow goes to toward a record high, ceo of td ameritrade tells us what investors are doing with their money. >> airlines reporting record fees, the baggage stuff you hate, why you should all stop complaining and start kind of loving the airline fees. >> i don't know about ha. >> we'll explain. >> what is that four-story floating mystery in san francisco bay? our hard-nosed team of reporters, josh lipton, is on the case when "street signs" returns. . >>> the official in charge obama care website has gotten quite the shellacking from congress. on the same day that nbc news reports the obama administration did know four years that millions would be dropped by their existing plans. people like michael from st. louis who told this to our bertha coombs. >> i was very surprised. i guess i kept an open mind to obama care and i really didn't think it was going to impact me because i thought i had a really very full, complete plan, that was not a -- what some people refer to
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fbn, be there. you don't get it. >> demand it. >>> hi, everyone. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." since obama care failed to launch, the administration's been the butt of ongoing late-night tv jokes. "saturday night live"'s been having a field day. >> a lot of folks have been talking about our new health care enrollment website, how it's been crashing and freezing and shutting down and stalling and not working and breaking and sucking. unfortunately, the site was only designed to handle six users at a time. so if you're in a rush, consider using our low res website. with simpler fonts and graphics. >> people may be mocking it but it's not a joke to everyone. whether the president told the truth to americans about his health care law going back to the campaign. >> when he was trying to get the law passed, repeatedly said, if you currently have health insurance, you'll be able to keep your plan. this morning, david axelrod was pressed on that point and said the majority, the vast majority, would get to keep their plans. he no longer works at the white house. from that podium, will you admit when the president said, if you have a plan, you'll get to keep it, that was not true? >> it's true there are existing health care plans on the individual market that don't meet those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the affordable care act. >> greg, i want to talk about ridicule. when your policy or your campaign or your candidate becomes the target of ridicule on "saturday night live," have you a huge problem on your hands? >> i don't really think so. i think -- i feel like the joke is on us for laughing. oh, finally, the cool kids are now seeing what all the dorks have been seeing for two years and we're supposed to be grateful for this one little, you know, colonel of satire. because there's no lesson to be gained from this humor. these actors who are playing these roles will still go and vote for big government and wealth transfer. they're still the slave to emotion. it's not going to change anything. they're going to go back and make fun of 90% of the time republicans. the fact is, we needed, what america needed was catastrophic health care and we got catastrophic health care. >> with the catastrophic rollout. >> to me, kimberly, you were laughing when we were rolling that because in a way it's like good to laugh about it and maybe it's a little bit of a relief to say, well, we told you so. >> finally a little bit of reality. somebody took off the rose colored glasses and realized there's problems, there's flaws, there's rule issues to be dealt with and a fraud has been done against the american people. thank you, "saturday night live," for being honest. you've got something here that is real. i thought it was a very funny impression. >> if you take the line that president obama repeated, which is if you like your health care plan, if you like your doctor, you can keep it. when that turns out for most people to be not true, do you think that -- does that undermine the entire law or do you think they can turn this around? they say it will be working by november 30th. >> that's just one of the things that aren't true about the obama care law. the most important to me was they promised it was going to be $890 billion. it's now up to $1.8 trillion. if this continues, if people, a, can't sign up, or, b, don't want to sign up because it's too expensive, we're seeing that. young people say it's just cheaper for me to take this tax. think about that for a second. if that continues at this pace it could be a $3 trillion or $4 trillion expense to the american people. he said you can keep your interest. they lied about so many things. to get this thing passed. from top to bottom. they talked about abortion not being in it originally. they even got one congressman to sign on, promising him abortion wasn't going to be in it. >> stupek. >> right, top to bottom, they've lied about it. talk about this for one second. when you realize how much this is going to cost them, they'll have to do one of two things. either tax the hell out of it and give the irs, they're going to have to muscle them up. right now, the irs can't garnish your wages. you just have to hope these people pay their taxes. or they're going to have to turn around and say every taxpayer in america is going to have to pick up the tab. >> that's what's going to happen because they don't have enough money in the till to balance it out. now you've got young people that are going to be uninsured, angry and penalized by the federal government. people are not better off. worse off. you don't need to be a gene justice to figure that out. it's going to be a problem. now we need to get bob in here. but in order to soften the runway a little bit, i want to play this sound from diane barrett who was on "cbs this morning" and get your reaction. not a crazy republican, somebody who got a letter in the mail. >> when i got this bill, i was outraged. >> that includes 56-year-old diane. last month, she received a letter from blue cross blue shield informing her as of january 2014 she would lose her current plan. barrett pays $54 a month. the new plan she's being offered would run $591 a month, ten times more than what she currently pays. >> what i have right now is what i'm happy with. i just want to know why i can't keep what i have. why do i have to be forced into something else? >> okay, so bob, when you start to have people that are coming out, it's not a congressman, right wing or from anywhere, this is an actual person who is doing -- >> bob's going to laugh. >> it's not a congressman, it's a real person. >> that's right, it's a real person with real feelings. >> if i could just respond to all you dorks. >> who's the dork, all of us? >> greg said we were the cool people and you guys were the dorks. look, i said i think you should delay this to get some of the problems out of it. i don't believe for a moment. that woman said it went up ten times. she was offered a range of plans. the insurance companies are raising rates right now. and they're delivering nothing. so what's going on here? is the insurance company using the excuse of january 1 to jack up people's rates so they can profit gouge? >> you know what happened? bob read the e-mails we passed back and forth across the weekend. because he's like, wait for it, within 36 hours, they're going to be going, demonizing the big insurance companies. it's all their fault. that's where you got that idea. >> i didn't get it from that because i don't read your e-mails. >> when they said you like your doctor and you can keep them and if you don't, you should say you hate your doctor and you hate your doctor so much, then obama will say, you know what, you can keep him. all the lies, what obama care, exactly what a guy does to get a girl in bed. i love to meet your parents. i love children. then afterwards -- >> i love dogs. >> after, all that stuff is gone. it's like, i really can't be bothered. >> i've heard that. >> i bet you have. >> can i say, the genius of progressive socialism, fitting, by the way, this is halloween. because it's about a costume. it's about intrusion disguised as concern. that's what we're talking about here. progressive socialism invents and cloaks new ways of confiscation. taking from people to pay for other people. >> so this is socialism now? >> of course it is. >> let me explain -- >> it might be socialism if we did what i wanted to do instead of singer payer. you're not answering this because you're all out here -- in eric's case, probably will be prostituting for the insurance companies. explain to me why the insurance companies are charging this kind of money. >> do you think all these new things are free? in what fantasy world do you live in that you can -- >> january 1 -- >> but that's when the rates go up is january 1. >> a lot of these people are being charged these rates right now. >> it's october 28th -- >> no, you're signing up now for your -- for your premium january 1. >> this woman said -- >> right, if you get on -- >> no, she's from california. >> point something out, dana, i spent -- okay, this obama care website goes down. it crashed on sunday. i went back on today. i got another error. there's my error message. i got that one today. when i got back on, i started to renew the process i started on friday. 40 minutes. i got two steps out of a five-step process to enroll. i didn't get near to enrolling. there is no way, there is no way they're going to fix this system any time soon. it's not going to be two or three weeks. it's going to be months. by the way, who's fixing it? who's paying for that fix? it should be the same people who came up with this garbage system. >> but there's no chance they're going to fix it. they have to scrap all of the code in its entirety. you can't just apply bad code on -- >> i'm sure everybody sat up there, said, let's figure out a way to screw people as badly as we can -- >> -- say, listen -- >> if you listen to the head of the insurance in florida, they said they'll offer a lot of plans and they're going to be cheaper for a lot of people. blue cross blue shield of florida -- >> what you're telling me, blue cross -- >> that's good, i would welcome blue cross blue shield, aetna, aflac, to come out and -- >> this guy predicted the most ever people in this country who would have an increase -- research. >> i have to -- i'm mandated to buy something. that's unconstitutional. >> the point is there should be competition and the ability -- >> there's -- >> bob, let me -- there should be the choice to look around and say, i want to get the best choice for my family -- >> i can't. >> you don't live in florida. >> so now you got to move to florida to get the blue shield cheaper insurance. >> it's just one example in florida. >> there's two lessons here for young people. whenever you are encountered by charm and celebrity to sell something, you're going to get screwed. because the people getting screwed right now are the young people when you look at the spread of premiums. they're the ones getting screwed. and all they did was listen -- if you hear scar jo, say no. that's what you remember. >> scarlett johansson. >> thank you. >> great lesson, you will always pay more for less. that is a crime. it's immoral, bob. when you have something and all of a sudden, they're saying, we're going to give you less and take more, that's wealth transfer, that's a crime. >> here's a crime, one of those young guys goes down in extreme snow boarding and gets quadriplegic and we have to pay for the son of a bitch because he wouldn't get insurance -- >> bob -- >> the most ridiculous example. if he has no insurance and he's snow boarding, he is a son of a whatever you want -- >> i'm about to name a bad word. >> -- they end up having to have open heart surgery, should which end up having to pay for that? >> i pay for it might. every dime of it. >> i'm going to call bs. >> anyone else going to call -- >> -- little insurance, not much little. >> but we're paying for it now. >> we're all paying for bob. >> yes, we are, we pay for the premiums. all of this stuff is not free. and they weren't honest. what she wanted, bob, was to keep her same plan, which is what president obama promised. that is not going to be possible under this. >> -- because of you, to give you that nasty chest situation -- >> you should have used -- never mind. >> the premium spread was supposed to be 1 to 6. an older person pays six times as much. that means more young people are paying for you. >> the kid who goes snow boarding -- >> that's a stupid question. >> why? >> because you're taking -- >> it's no more stupid than what you just said. >> no, because that's the only way young people get hurt. they are young. it's rare. it's catastrophic. have catastrophic health care. not catastrophic health care. >> also, those people can be on their parent's health insurance under the law. >> his answer -- >> you have a good point. >> catastrophic health care. that's all you need. >> people do opt to do that. because they said they're generally healthy. in case of a huge accident -- >> i don't think i've taken a breath. >> you guys don't want catastrophic health care. >> i do, i like it. >> you want single pay? >> catastrophic. >> all right. >> obama care is catastrophic but it's not catastrophic health care. >> i know, i've heard you use that line. >> i'll keep saying it and saying it. >> let's get out of here. >> i haven't breathed in three minutes. >> we're going to move on. the white house taking heat from some of its allies over the spying controversy. is it part of the game played by every country? we're going to debate it. please check out facebook.com/thefivefnc. five pieces of advice for the hearing on wednesday. five from the five. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "juggle a bunch of rotating categories" card. it's not the "sign up for rewards each quarter" card. it's the no-games, no-messing-'round, no-earning-limit-having, do-i-look-like-i'm-joking, turbo-boosting, heavyweight-champion- of-the-world cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere, every damn day. now, tell me, what's in your wallet? >>> new spying details reveal the nsa has tapped the phones of up to 35 world leaders. the question become, do the benefits of surveillance outweigh the risk of damaging relations with our international partners? let a let's listen to robert gibbs and peter king offer their competing views. >> i think clearly damage has been done. i think we have to evaluate whether the costs of it is method of gathering some intelligence greatly exceeds the benefit of that intelligence, particularly when we're listening in to apparently some of our very closest allies. >> i think the president should stop apologizing, stop being defensive. the reality is the nsa has saved thousands of lives. in france and germany and throughout europe. we're not doing this for the fun of it. this is to gather valuable intelligence which helps not just us but also helps the europeans. >> you begged me to go first. >> did you have to say that? >> yes. >> okay. i'm going to just say, my experience, i was in the white house, we were doing this back in the 70s and 80s. this is nothing new. they do it to us. particularly the french. i don't care -- you should spy on the french in their bedroom as far as i'm concerned. >> why, you want to learn something? >> you're ruining my -- >> they spy on us. we spy. this is a game -- i mean, it's not a game, it's serious stuff. if you listen in, you got to listen in to the exchanges going back to some government people. it's as simple as that. they're doing it to us. >> so now you're okay with it? >> of course. >> you've got to understand what he's distinguishing. he's talking about -- this is what spying is for. i mean, you spy on big wigs. and by the way, 35 world leaders, most of them suck -- >> angela merkel's -- >> she's good. spying is the price you pay for becoming an adult in the free world. it's what you do. >> thank you, gregory. >> okay, bolling, let's get your take. >> i agree we should be spying on other people, foreigner, not americans. the nsa says obama didn't know about this. we're supposed to believe he didn't know about the nsa until he heard -- the spying on merkel until he heard about it on the news? fast and furious, journalists being subpoenaed, consulate, irs -- >> no, he's being all inclusive -- >> so here's the point -- but, on the other hand, if they've data mined billions upon billions of phone calls, so anything good that happens, president obama takes credit for. anything that's bad that happens, he says, i didn't know about it, no one told me about deputy director of the cia saying snowden is a trader. see if you change your opinion about what he did. was he a whistleblower, was he a trader? listen. >> i do not believe he is a whistleblower. i do not believe he is a hero. i think he betrayed his country. >> how serious a hit to national security? >> i think this is the most serious leak. the most serious compromise of classified information. >> because of the amount of it or the type? >> the amount and the type. >> you have to understand, because snowden is the guy that put us in this position is what the intelligence officials are saying. that he is the source of this information that is manying forward that has become, now, an embarrassment to the united states. so i ask you out there and i ask the people at this table, do you still share the same opinion of snowden that you did in the beginning? >> i do. this is my guy you said? this is what you said? democrat? >> he's a career civil servant who was president obama's choice for the cia. >> to call this the greatest breach of u.s. security is so far out of bounds that i don't care who he is, i mean, i could give you a lot of ones. you think -- >> what about snowden? i'm asking you about snowden. >> i think snowden should be brought back to this country, he should be tried. he made the biggest hole in u.s. national security like this guy said -- >> okay, but he needs to be tried for what, go ahead. >> i think he should be brought back to the united states as well and hired to fix the obama care website. >> that's good. >> oh, my goodness. your opinion on him has not changed. you still think -- >> the guy broke open one of the biggest stories of all time. what the government is doing. breaking the law. violating our constitution. >> my opinion has not changed. >> which is it? >> i need additional facts. i said from the beginning i thought what he did is wrong. >> you called him a trader? >> i have to look under the law. that's a serious allegation. >> i don't see what the argument is for snowden leaking stuff that -- the international information, other than it's for his own ego. julian assange, he did a lot of this for his own ego, he wanted to be famous. i believe snowden is a rat fink. >> so your position of it has remained the same. i think as i said from the beginning, there is a question as to whether or not -- yes, he is a trader because there are criminal allegations and charges here. i don't know why he specifically leaked stuff about us spying on other countries. i don't think that helped us whatsoever or the u.s. position in international communities. let's just say he was in germany and he found out that the germans were spying on the united states, would he be so offended? >> i have no idea but the idea that people don't know that we were listening -- >> -- protected by the constitution, what the nsa was doing was a violation -- >> you have a problem with what he -- >> -- not spying on american, on international foreign leaders? got to go. mama's got to paul the rip cord. al qaeda link to the 9/11 attack on our consulate in benghazi. it directly contradicts what we were initially told by the white house. details are straight ahead. check out our new website at foxnews.com/thefive. 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>> they knew we monitored it. they knew we included that in our reports to both state department and dod. i made it known in a meeting. you are going to get attacked. you are going to get attacked in benghazi. it's going to happen. >> while it's a relief to see cbs wake up, you got to remember if it took so long and if it matters at this point. it matters because they're still free. also because the administration and its fawning media are still immune to scrutiny. the benghazi tale's a textbook lesson. on bias. how it works. bip yas wo bias works by ignoring a harmful story so people are protected. who does that benefit? the white house of course. the result, obama care is here, as is the ideological engine that powers it. taking the rest of us with it. it is the bus that so many get thrown under. including four americans who died on september 11th. to the media scum who mock such concern, americans who lose their health insurance or their lives are simply speed bumps on the road to the greater good. at a car wreck, a cop would tell gawkers, there's nothing to see here, move on. that's now the official white house motto. >> wow. i like that. >> thank you, kimberly. >> what are you doing later? >> very little, busy. >> very little mentioned in "the 60 minutes," president obama, very little mentioned of hillary clinton. almost like they're saying this is a horrible thing that happened. >> it's like they've been sprayed with pam and nothing sticks to them and they just slide right off, like an invisible shield of protection. nothing is directly attributed to them. i'm glad "60 minutes" did this story. i didn't learn anything new because we've been saying this for months and months and months and months. maybe finally everyone else is going to catch up, get up to speed on this and maybe we'll get some answers. it's still, to me, one of the most embarrassing things to this country, country, the way these people were treated. >> you asked the question, agree. the only problem, it shouldn't be the media's job. it should be coming from congress. so what took so long? what's taking so long for john boehner to create a select committee to go and ask these questions instead of lara logan? and maybe you put 14 or so republican congressman on it, in the room, and put ten democrats in there, ask the right questions. now, the whisper is -- >> no, you didn't. issa had his own committee. the whisper in the d.c. hallways is congress people want that and boehner doesn't want to give it to them. the question is, does he know things? was he made aware? there's some who believe he was made aware of weapons moving from the u.s. from libya to syria. >> issa wants a select committee? >> yes, issa wants a select committee. maybe it's time. speaker boehner. >> what do they got to learn? they've done 24 committee hearings already. what more do they need? >> no, people who won't lie -- >> select committee would get to the answers. >> cbs, which is a dog network, which don't ever believe in because they're all part of the establishment media, which greg befouls all the time. now they're great people and we're take the word of one guy on one report on one intercept? >> a, he was there apparently. >> apparently. >> cbs. what was it a year ago, when th interviewed president obama and withheld a portion of the interview that might have contradicted what he said when it was the fault of the video but then it was premeditated? they left that part out. that's why it's a problem. because they purposely held something back. now they've got their guy in. it doesn't matter. dana, you get the last word. >> what we don't know is how hard lara logan had to fight with cbs in order to get a lead feature on "60 minutes" over a year after benghazi happened. commendable. interesting nobody seemed to mention that the white house blamed a video for the whole thing. very chilling. >> ahead on "the five ," is it okay for teachers to spank kids in school? bob thinks so. >> of course. >> stay tuned for that. >>> all right. welcome back, everybody. a couple of quick stories. on the east coast, philly, known for cheese steaks and the birthplace of our freedom. as well as the first and second continental congress. now add socialism to the list. a well-known columnist wrote a book about the joys of socialism. get this, the philly city council just passed a resolution to incorporate his teachings into the curriculum of the philly public schools k through 12. times are changing in philly. >> anti-americanism does not thrive because it is correct, it thrives because it is cool. this stuff will always be seen as cool in academic circles. even if 99% of people don't read it. the good thing is kids rebel. if you give a kid -- if you go to a catholic school, a lot of kids become atheists. if you give kids fr s this mate they'll come out as free market maniacs. >> that happened to stuart varn varney. he said he started as a c communist and became a raging capitalist. >> varney was a communist? >> i can't wait -- >> we're not strong enough to allow a book on communism in class? what, are you kidding me? that's going to change everybody be? i don't care if it's a public school or not. if you can't learn two sides to thing -- >> this guy, correct me if i'm wrong, he's been known to kind of plagiarize or change history as well too, right? >> he's not an actual historian. >> he takes the point of view that in either historical moment, america is the evildoer. >> former governor of indiana, mitch daniels, he prevented this book from being taught in their schools. >> this guy is not historically accurate. he's just preaching socialism. i don't see the whole point of it being in public schools. >> now, on the west coast, cheerleaders for lincoln high school in san jose wanted to raise money for a trip. they decided a car wash would be fun. until the san jose department of environmental services paid the cheerleaders a visit. turns out, they were denied the permit to watch a few cars. apparently the car wash was violating a discharge law. cheerleaders, car washes. >> i know it sounds terrible but it reads well for us here. you know what i mean. a law is a law is a law. you don't like the law, change the law. you're supposed to let cheerleader goes because they're good looking? >> you would. >> well -- >> un-american, bob. cheerleaders. car wash. high school. this is an eighth graders fantasy. >> i would rent a car at 14 -- >> your big wheel. >> yes, i would take my big wheel. >> this is sad. i mean, come on, kids are doing car washes all the time. it's just like lemonade stand. give me a break. what country is this? bob, you're on the wrong side of this. i want you to get over here. >> i sit on this side, i'm happy. >> there are certain laups th l that you happily violate. >> regularly. >> cheerleader's faces -- >> no. >> because we'd probably get sued if we put their faces up. >> or maybe it's the water that's blurring their faces. >> no, they're like underage. >> whatever, i've been to car washes. all kinds of groups do them. boy scouts, cheerleaders. >> there's movies about cheerleaders doing car washes. >> all right, bob. >> we should enforce car washing across america and we should have car insurance, car washing insurance. >> if you like your car wash, you can keep it. >> car wash -- >> are you okay with your teacher spanking your kids? bob says you should be. before we go, want to take a second to recognize an american icon in music, rock legend lureed dead at 71. test >>> are you okay with corporal punishment in your child's school? some people in public schools in 19 states still use paddles to discipline students when they're misbehaving. there's a new report out now. paddling more than 16,000 times last year alone. >> bob, do you think that's an appropriate accent? >> that's what they told me to say. >> you told him to talk like that? >> my sophomore year of high school, we were up stairs. a gym teacher goes out of the room. a kid goes running. i pulled the mat out from under him. a teacher happened to walk by. he said, take your wallet out. grab your ankles. bam, paddle. i saw stars. i saw stars for an an hour. and i will tell you i was the perfect student for two and a half more years of high school. at least in jim class. >> so you're saying we should spank bob. >> i would allow them to paddle my son. >> oh, really? >> absolutely. i'm delighted you said. i had the same experience in biology class where the biology did it because i put coca-cola in some girl's and he got mad about it. they hurt. >> hurt like hell. >> i remembered it. i didn't mess with that girl after that. >> how many other bad things did you do for like the next 40 years? >> hardly anything. >> please. let me tell you something -- >> do you paddle? >> no. >> why do you have to think so hard? >> what i'm saying is i have never been spanked for disciplinary reasons. >> i bet that's true. >> that's my maury povich. >> greg, how about you? >> i don't think i was ever spanked at school. i believe, you know, fear derives from, you know, asserting authority. and i think a good teacher can do that without spanking by using her voice. i remember when i got in trouble at school, i wanted to get back in good graces with the teacher. when the teacher made you feel bad and i think good teachers could make you feel bad about yourself. and you want to be better. and i think you can do that without it. i've never seen a dunce cap in my life. >> you want to bring that back? >> yeah. but add spanking at the workplace. >> oh, my god. >> let's add spanking at the workplace. >> let's not. >> seriously, you shouldn't spank children at school. >> never get in trouble at school and get straight as. >> they must not have allowed spanking. >> why did you say that? >> jasper doesn't get spanked. >> come on. >> i think greg has a good point about dis -- if i disappoint somebody that's expecting more from me, that is punishment enough for me. >> really? >> i believe that. that's true. psychological profile. >> i'll put myself in the corner, i'll cry, still thinking about things happened years ago. >> i don't think children should be spanked at school. i really don't. if somebody spanked my baby at school, i'm going to go spank them. it's not appropriate. >> you have to sign a waiver. >> yeah, my point is i do not think that it is appropriate to use corporal punishment against children. teach better and use other behavior management strategies to get the desired outcome or change the way they're acting in school. even bob can be helped. >> you have a waiver enforced at your house. >>> it's time now for one more thing. it's to easy to make bob yawn. >> i wasn't yawning about that. >> all right. kimberly, you're going to kick us off. >> mine is the great pumpkin one more thing. this town in utah called pl pleasant grove, sounds like a lovely place. they have a big pumpkin dropping contest and the pumpkins they drop are 1,000 pounds plus. and the big winner was over 1,200 pounds. can you imagine? this is pretty amazing. i wouldn't try it in your backyard. but the best part about this is the event raises money for the march of dimes charity with ten cents of every pumpkin pound being donated. i think it looks like a lot of fun. then you try to attend a pumpkin event in central park. >> yeah, i was in the wrong place. i went for a great pumpkin sale but i was in the wrong place. bob, we have an assignment for you next year. >> that looks like my brain when i was drinking. >> i didn't know they made pumpkins that big. >> encourages pumpkin on pumpkin violence. is that a pumpkin hate crime. >> i don't know, dorky. all right. resurrected phrase, rat fink. it's a great phrase used to describe people on the make. these are people that are not enemies. they're people that you know that end upturning on you and screw you over. rat fink. >> oh, who does this sound like? >> this sounded personal. >> somebody did it. >> i can't tell you. >> subversive, but they're just rat finks. >> or troubled. complicated. >> complicated, troubled, seeking therapy. >> eric, you are next. >> the picture for the last week my wife went on a girls trip to puerto rico. there they are having a great time. >> wow. >> something interesting, every single day of the trip all five days she said can i please bring home a stray puerto rico dog. >> oh, my god. >> i bet she did. >> they have a lot of stray dogs. all i can think of was this, right here. >> that's what i thought you were going to say. >> ricky martin. >> you wanted her to bring you home ricky martin? eric, is there something we should know? >> did you know that mcdowel has a puerto rico dog named ramon that he adopted from puerto rico? for real. >> what's the difference? >> shows you how bored eric's wife is with him. >> what's the difference between a puerto rico dog and a nonpuerto rico dog. >> language. >> yo quiero taco bell. >> what is happening to people? >> i don't know. >> bob, you're next. >> on this day in history i was 19, congress enforces prohibitions over president wood row wilson veto banned alcohol. normally, i don't like alcohol being around for people that use in this case what followed was this, there were riots and organized crime got a big boost out of this thing and most of the mafia made most of their money on selling bootleg liquor. it was not a good idea. >> meaning legalize drugs. >> well, i'm going to go last year. and, greg, i have good news for you. >> all right. here comes the short joke. >> it is a study by the associated press center for public affairs research finds nine in ten workers who are age 50 or older say that they are very or somewhat satisfied with their jobs because they've accomplished things, they've climbed the ladder, increased salaries, reached some americans can't keep their health insurance under obama care and now it turns oh you tell the president might have known this for years. >> the country super star was on board when his tour bus hit and killed a man. >> behind the wheel this morning the frightening results of a new crash test. the three popular vehicles that performed poorly. 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seems longer since obama care and the website was launched and then promptly crashed. next hour, that debacle faces blistering criticism on capitol hill. that as a federal administrator has to explain her agency's failures in creating that website. testifying today. and of course today's hearing an sets the stage for her boss, health and human services secretary kathleen seb beaelius faces a grilling from lawmakers tomorrow. there is a new shocker now hitting home for millions of americans. many may lose their private insurance coverage that they have now. let's get the very latest from senior white house correspondent brianna keilar. this has got to be going against what many heard the president say, which is they wouldn't lose. >> reporter: the white house now admitting that some people will see their health plans change. that does go against what we heard president obama promise. the white house is also saying it might not actually be or it will not actually be a bad thing for many people. one of the president's longtime promises about his namesake health care reform plan -- >> if
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march 31st to do so. course correction of the roll out of obama care may be the least of the white house's problems. for years president obama denied that the affordable care act would change health care coverage for millions of americans. in fact it was a key component of the president's sales pitch to the public. >> if you like your health care plan you keep your health care plan. these folks need to stop scaring everybody. nobody will force you to leave your health care plan. i don't want government bureaucrats meddling in your health care. your employer provides you health insurance on the job, nobody is talking about messing with that. if you're one of the more than 250 million americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance. >> but now an nbc news report finds the opposite happens to be true. buried in a document from 2010 of obama care regulations, lisa myers discovered the white house officials were aware between 40 and 67% of individuals would not be able to keep their policies. yesterday white house press secretary jay carney tried to clar
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will listen to each other, learn from each other and most of all trust. >> listen, learn, trust. two out of three isn't bad. >> nsa spying scandal just won't go away. now congress is preparing to step in with landmark legislation that could drastically change what the agency does and how they do it. how to scare pirates on the open seas? by blasting britney spears. world series didn't end with a ridiculous play but one team is one play away from a title. this is way too early. good morning everybody, brian shactman. nfl game in st. louis last night as well. absolutely no doubt that that is a baseball town. seahawks rams tickets going for 10 bucks just before kick-off. world highlights on that game as well. we want to start this morning with the nsa. this morning it's not just america's allies who are upset over the agency's wiretapping. one of the staunchest backers, diane feinstein now calling for a full review of the mass data collection at home and abroad. the california democrat who chairs the senate intelligence committee says she's totally opposed to spying on u.s. allies according to her congress has not been adequately kept in the loop. feinstein also said the administration assured her surveillance would not continue, a point that some officials later challenged. while the president may be poised to order a ban on eavesdropping on friendly leaders it's not year what the white house knew and when. the agency said it did not inform the president of reported monitoring of german chancellor angela merkel but the "l.a. times" said current and foreign officials said the white house and state department signed off on it. foreign ambassadors absolutely descended on the capitol to voice their discontent. germany calling for an investigation whether the nsa considered angela merkel a terrorist and james costas was swamped in spain amid the latest report that the u.s. tracked 60 million kaulgs in less than a month there. a landmark bill is said to be introduced in congress addressing oversight. the freedom act would end bulk collection of u.s. phone records and make it harder to target u.s. communications and require the government to more aggressively purge information accidentally collected on americans. also today on capitol hill lawmakers will hear from the woman who oversaw the creation of the online insurance marketplace known as healthercare.gov. you heard of it. yesterday because of the issues surrounding the website the obama administration officially granted a six week extension for shoppers to sign up for coverage next year. you now have until march 31st to do so. course correction of the roll out of obama care may be the least of the white house's problems. for years president obama denied that the affordable care act would change health care coverage for millions of americans. in fact it was a key component of the president's sales pitch to the public. >> if you like your health care plan you keep your health care plan. these folks need to stop scaring everybody. nobody will force you to leave your health care plan. i don't want government bureaucrats meddling in your health care. your employer provides you health insurance on the job, nobody is talking about messing with that. if you're one of the more than 250 million americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance. >> but now an nbc news report finds the opposite happens to be true. buried in a document from 2010 of obama care regulations, lisa myers discovered the white house officials were aware between 40 and 67% of individuals would not be able to keep their policies. yesterday white house press secretary jay carney tried to clarify the law and those past remarks from the president. >> what everybody said all along there will be changes brought about by the affordable care act to provide minimum standard of coverage. so it's true that there are existing health care plans on the individual market that don't meet those minimum standards and, therefore, do not qualify for the are affordable care act. >> lisa myers will be on "morning joe" at the top of the hour at 6:00 a.m. some news outside of d.c. to talk about. a federal judge blocked a key part of a texas law toughening access to abortions one day before the law was set to take effect. the judge threw out the portion that required doctors who perform the procedures to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals 30 miles or less away. critics say it would have forced 1/3 of the state's clinics to shut down. wendy davis filibustered the legislation over the sum per the bill ultimately passed and davis is now running for governor against attorney general greg abbott who has already promised to appeal the judge's ruling. >>> the virginia governor's race increasingly appears to be in the hands of a democratic candidate terry mcauliffe who has opened up a double digit lead in the latest polling. "the washington post" poll shows him leading ken cuccinelli 51-39 with libertarian candidate behind. president obama will help mcauliffe campaign this weekend as the race heads into the final stretch. >>> penn state will be paying millions of dollars in a settlement with more than two dozen sex abuse victims of jerry sandusky. the university will may $60 million to 26 of sandusky's victims. the settlements will not be funded student tuition, taxpayer funds or donations. sandusky is currently serving between 30 and 60 years behind bars after being convicted last year on 45 different counts of sex abuse. he's appealing the verdict. penn state president said quote, we hope this is another step forward in the healing process for those hurt by mr. sandusky and another step forward for penn state. we cannot undo what has been done but we can and must do everything possible to learn from this and ensure it never happens again at penn state. >>> two oklahoma inmates are back in jail after a pretty unlikely escape over the weekend. yesterday we told you about four inmates snuck out of a county detention center by escaping over a duct over a shower room. they crawled along the stretch of pipes and broke through a cement wall before making to it freedom. only temporarily for two of them. two convicts captured on monday afternoon about 40 miles down the road. the other two remain at large this morning. >>> less than a week after five people were hurt on a ride at the north carolina state fair another accident involving the same type of ride at the same fair. a state fair worker is in critical condition this morning after the festival's second vortex ride fell on him. the man became trapped yesterday morning when the seating section collapsed as he was dismantling it. three of the five people hurt in the first vortex accident last week remain in the hospital. one of the victims is just 14 years old. a judge refused to reduce the $225,000 bail for the operator of that ride, timothy tutterrow he has been charged with three counts of assault with a deadly weapon. >>> let's go to detroit and the bankruptcy trial. the stipulate's historic trial is now in the hands of a judge deciding the merits of that chapter 9 filing yesterday. michigan governor testified saying the decision to file for bankruptcy was a tremendously difficult decision to make, but the right one under the circumstances. he was subpoenaed by union leaders who are attempting to block the filing because of its impact on pennsylvania benefits. >>> pretty mixed day on the markets. s&p up a little bit. dow and nasdaq in negative territory yesterday. for more headlines from the business world, we go cnbc. >> reporter: hello, brian shactman. i want to take you through one of the top headlines here that wall street will be joining. the justice department to block the proposed merger of american airlines and usa airways may be resolved before it goes a courtroom. the two sides have agreed to meet with a mediator. the government claims the merger will lead to higher fares and a cut to service. american and u.s. airways say it will help them to compete. toyota's reputation for quality has taken a hit. "consumer reports" pulled its recommendation on three of the top automakers vehicles including the camry sedan. last year the institution for safety involved a new test. it gave the camry a poor rating but plans to retest the vehicle in december. "consumer reports" is one of the most trusted names for people shopping for cars and automakers try to ensure their vehicles get the magazine's recommended reading. i take the subway every where i don't worry about these. >> that's a shocker. obviously hundreds of thousands of those in the u.s. i know in the business world we track what's going on with china and the consumer and there's business there that, difficult for them to watch movies. >> reporter: this was an interesting story. china's movie hungry population will soon be able to bring the big screen from the theaters to the living room, brian. imax will announce a joint venture with tcl multimedia to bring $250,000 home theater systems in china. china is the largest market for flat screen tvs. the government only allows distribution of 34 movies in theaters. half have to be 3-d or imax. it could prompt families to spend a bit more time. >> thank you. one year since superstorm sandy wreaked havoc across the east coast. a lot of families still struggling to pick up the pieces. thousands of people are displaced, staying in hotels, staying with friends or families. many haven't fwun to repair their battered homes. there's a new problem mounting for the community. many may have no choice but to leave for good because of skyrocketing insurance rates. some homeowners say flood insurance rates could go up by as much as 500% to nearly $10,000 a year because avenue federal law passed after sandy. sandy victims are questioning the pace of aid. in august the government just announced $5 billion of the $60 billion aid damage has been spent. another $5 billion began to filter out yesterday. that's 50 out left hanging in the balance. superstorm sandy claimed 182 lives in the united states and we'll have more on that in "morning joe" as well. that brings us to our twitter question. it's a little east coast bias and we apologize to the rest country. where were you when sandy hit and even if you weren't here and you want to tell us us, #waytooearly. i was covering this story in montauk. red sox ace jon lester pitched a gem in game five but he needs an offense to move closer to a title. 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cardinals trying to make a go of it. matt holliday doesn't have the protection of albert pujols. it ties the game at 1-1. seventh david ross in for jarrod saltalamacchia. rips one down left field. bounces it into the seats. sox take a 2-1 lead to tack on another run in that inning and absolutely gem from jon lester. seven and two-thirds, the seven strikeouts and red sox on the brink of another title with a 3-1 win. game six in boston wednesday. >> can we do it tonight? >> i would do it tonight. barnacle is back. >> can we get a close up? >> end of baseball season. >> i want close ups of hd of barnacle all morning. he flew straight here. >> he's high as a kite. he's all right. >> haven't changed my underwear in six days. >> have you changed the depends underneath them? >> oh, oh, oh, oh, senior abuse. >> i'll get eight tweets joking with barnacle. >> that's dreadful. >> joust down the street let's go football. the trams hosting the seahawks monday night football. second quarter, first start of the year. what does doe? gets picked off. russell wilson finishes the drive that passed golden tate. st. louis field goal wilson, again. i know. that's why i don't like seattle. they show boat. when the patriots play them in the super bowl it will be big. they had a chance, though, by the way, st. louis to go for the win in the fourth down late in the game, goal line stand. by seattle. they win it 14-9. they are now 7-1 best in the nfc. does that take a little sting off that we talked a little football? it's bean great world series. >> it has. i told you after game one. i wanted red sox to yuan in four to get it over with. >> they can't lose two. barnacle do you think it's a done deal? >> no. >> you would talk about this for a half hour dpou. >> let's do sports radio. >> you're going to do three hours as soon as morning red sox starts. as far as what we're doing here in the u.s., a big storm moving across the country. nothing what we dealt with a year ago. this storm has caused a lot of convenience in the midwest. a lot of heavy rain. kansas city will get drenched through all of missouri. interstate is not a fun drive. north of minneapolis a little bit of snow mixed in. we'll get a rare three day period of severe storms, a few tornadoes, late season severe weather outbreak. today in rural areas of texas mostly with large hail. that will move across the country in the days ahead. today travel trouble kansas city to dallas but still looks like a halloween wash out. chicago, detroit, indianapolis right down through areas of texas. >> all right, thank you bill. coming up on "morning joe" besides the red sox maybe you can't keep your health care plan. the revelations about the white house expected for people who buy their own insurance before obama care came into effect. when we come back here we'll huddle around the cooler. a real world use for britney spears music. how sailors are using her music to stay safe on the open seas. we'll be right back. i'm tony siragusa and i'm training guys who leak a little, to guard their manhood with new depend shields and guards. the discreet protection that's just for guys. now, it's your turn. get my training tips at guardyourmanhood.com >>> at the top of the show we talked about the first anniversary of superstorm sandy. if you want to sound matter today tell your friend superstorm sandy caused about $65 billion in damage. the only storm that caused more damage was hurricane katrina which caused about $80 billion worth of damage. let's go the cooler and mr. lewis. >> let's start out with "sesame street." it's been entertaining children for decade but these days they came with some material that can be enjoyed by all ages. check out "homeland." >> there's something strange about -- >> what's strange? >> something is not right. i know it. i can feel it. >> wait. such a worrier that one. >> mary. mary. >> it's not the sheep you think he is. >> you're talking about a hero. >> well, i think we need to put eyes and ears on him. my what big eyes you have, baaa rudy. >> i don't know what mr. rogers would think about that but miss piggy nailed carrie mathison. sailors at sea are turning to a new we fond keep them safe from somalia pirates. ♪ that's right. britney spears. i like this jam a lot. ships blast britney spears music at somalia pirates. they hate western culture. one navy officer says it prevents crews from having to fire guns. pretty advanced weapon. now the "daily show" can't seem to stay away from obama care. last night jon stewart noticed a change in the program's home page. >> the latest change is mainly cosmetic. that lady is gone. >> get rid of that smiling lady. although i'm not sure the new home page is an improvement. >> brian, i think it's just too early to see something like that. >> fodder for humor for a long time to come. >> what about the lady? 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Oct 29, 2013 10:00am EDT
>>> good morning. i'm chris jansing. for the first time right now a key obama administration official, who's been in the middle of the botched health care rollout, is facing congress to explain what's going on with the obama care website. this is a live picture and you're looking at medicare chief marilyn tavenner. she had major responsibility for the health care overhaul and was just confirmed in may, though with strong bipartisan support in the senate. she also has a long-time friendship on the republican side with eric cantor. the head of the committee says he expects her to shed some light on systemic failures. did she see the problems coming? did she tell hhs secretary sebelius? i want to bring in our company. e.j. dionne, susan page is usa today's washington bureau chief. good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> let's start with who she is. i think it's interesting. she was a nurse in the e.r., she worked her way up to ceo of a couple of big hospitals. so she knows something about running complicated organizations. susan, what are you expecting to see this morning? >> i think she's going to get a more respectful hearing than kathleen sebelius is likely to get tomorrow, but this is a warm-up for tomorrow's hearing with secretary sebelius. you know marilyn tavenner has earned a good reputation in washington as a straightforward person and competent manager. on the other hand, it's her agency that's been in charge of this exchange website that has had so many problems so she is sure to be grilled about that. >> it was one of her people, though, who pushed through a change, e.j., that forced users to create these accounts before they shopped for insurance and that's what's been blamed on the massive bottleneck. is she going to have to take any kind of a bullet for sebelius? but there are also reports she was left out of key decisions. do you think she really is just a warm-up act for the hhs secretary? >> she's a professional. my hunch is she'll be very straightforward. when you look in retrospect at that decision where you've got to create an account first, if you look at states where the exchanges seem to be working fine, where their websites are working fine, like kentucky, they let people shop first before they create the account. that looks like it was a better choice. and so i think she is going to be pressed on that. i suspect she'll be candid about it. i think that the obama administration's best path on this is to be -- is to be candid and say, you know, we made some mistakes here. we need to fix them. we're trying to fix them. but to say the underlying law can work. if you doubt that, look at all the states where it's actually working. >> there's another issue here, and that is who's going to be covered and who isn't. lisa myers reported for nbc last night that 50% to 75% of the 14 million consumers who buy their health insurance individually are going to get a cancellation letter because their policies don't meet the standards, the higher standards that are mandated by the new health law. susan, considering president obama said over and over again if you like your plan, you can keep it, is this a problem? >> yeah, don't make a promise you can't keep. you know, this was the administration dealing with a pr problem they had at the moment, which was that people weren't comfortable, had a lot of questions about how the affordable care act would work. he told people they could keep their insurance plan. officials knew at the time that because they were setting higher standards for insurance policies, some of the current insurance policies would not be allowed to continue. and now they're having to deal with that reality. you know, he could have solved this problem back then by saying almost everybody will be able to keep the insurance policy they like or by saying most people will be able to keep them, but that's not what he said over and over again, so now they have to deal with the fact that they are being forced to explain why that doesn't apply to this segment of the market, and it comes at a time when there's just cascading criticism of other aspects of the affordable care act. this was a problem they did not need to have at this time. >> so the administration is doing a number of things. one is they say, yes, some people will have to get other insurance, but it's going to be better insurance. they're also pushing that hhs report that shows how affordable coverage on the exchanges can be. i just want to show you a couple of stats. for adults 18 to 34, they say 46% could pay $50 or less. 66% could pay $100 or less. and the enrollment goal for that group of 18 to 34-year-olds is 2.7 million. so with even all the website problems, you do wonder, e.j., if that's not a little bit of an incentive if those numbers are indeed the case. >> no, i think that's right. i think it's quite clear, my colleague, a liberal blogger, who strongly supports obama care said, look, the administration should have been clearer. but the question is when you -- there are lies when you say black is white and there are some that have a touch gray in them. so the administration should come out there. i think candor is their friend in all of this. say, yes, people in the private insurance market, and as lisa myers pointed out early this morning on chuck todd, we're talking about 14 million people. there's a lot of churn in that market with or without obama care. some people will have -- a lot of people may change their policies to something better. some of them are going to pay less, as those numbers showed. but i think they should try to move the debate as much as possible from getting hung up on very particular things that are being used to undercut the whole program and say, look, the question is will most americans be better off at the end of this? an i think they can win that debate. >> because in the meantime republicans have been having a field day and they just put out this morning a new set of ads about the website problems. one of them, the one i'm going to show you a little clip from, is going to air during "the daily show." >> hello, i'm the private sector. >> and i'm obama care. >> obama care, what are you doing down there? >> i'm just down for a little maintenance. oh, wait, wait, i think i'm getting up, up, up. >> down again. >> susan, do you think more transparency can solve some of these problems for the administration? >> yeah, you know, e.j. and i have covered a lot of government crises in the past couple of years, couple of decades maybe, and there is a recipe for getting out of them and that is to say, hey, we made mistakes, we're going to fix them. we're sorry, we're going to make it work the way we promised you to do. people will forgive that. remember, we're just at the end of october. they opened on october 1st. there is still time to make the exchanges work, to have people understand better how this -- how the affordable care act is going to affect their own lives. but you need to start making a start in repairing some of the damage and some of the problems that you're facing. >> and as we wait for the comments from marilyn tavenner and we see the ranking member, carl levin there, let me bring in anna eshoo. distinguish good to see you. >> thank you. >> is what we're seeing a preview of kathleen sebelius when she comes before your committee tomorrow? >> yes, i'm looking forward to it. it will be high profile. and of course my republican friends will -- it will be some high theater, but at the end of the day, i think that the things that i would like to know is -- and have confidence in is when the bugs are out, what's that time frame, making sure that healthy young people are able to enroll. this is all about getting people enrolled so that they can have health care, and it's a vote that i'm exceedingly proud to have cast, because it's such a great need in the country. so -- but i also think most honestly that we have a real problem with federal procurement. it has been at the top of the list, one of the highest priorities of the government accounting office since 1992. and so i think that really congress, if we really want to do something across the government, that we examine that and that we update it because my sense is that smaller, more entrepreneurial companies that know a heck of a lot more than, i think, the contractors that were involved in this, for example, that we very well might have had a better outcome so i think that is it is tied to this. >> let me something if i can, congresswoman, and that is, and we were talking about this before we came on. millions of people could have their health insurance canceled or be forced to change it. that's according to this report by nbc's investigative unit, because their policies don't meet the standards of the new health care law. what do you say to constituents who heard the president say if you like your plan, you can keep it. >> well, most frankly, there are some real junk insurance plans out there that people have been buying, pay for, but they don't have the coverage, the minimum standards that we now are going to have. so if -- if i have a plan that includes that, well, i shouldn't use myself as an example because as a federal employee, i'm part of the exchange. but if someone has a plan that has the coverage with those standards, they do get to keep it. if they have a junk plan, that's not going to -- that doesn't fit with the law. and what they will get, they will get much better coverage. and that's very important. so there's a difference between the two. as one individual, i would rather have coverage with the benefits in it that really matter. >> but what we're hearing, congresswoman, is i'd rather have some coverage that i can afford than better coverage, arguably, that frankly is out of my price range. >> well, there's not going to be -- you know, these added benefits are not going to cost that much more, number one. number two, these benefits that are called for today, that fit with the law that passed, are really the essentials. and we knew that insurers could drop you if you were sick. we knew that insurers would not insure you if you had a pre-existing condition. we knew that insurers discriminated against women. and women are walking, talking, pre-existing conditions. so these are really very vital benefits. and i think that when people get a close look at it, that they're going to be grateful for it. >> congressman anna eshoo, thanks so much for coming on the program. >> thank you. >>> while we're waiting for the ways and means committee hearing to get to marilyn tavenner, the head of medicare and medicaid services, let me ask you both a little bit about what's going on with the nsa, spying on foreign leaders, president obama considering banning spying on our friends and allies. susan, the u.s. already has a no-spying agreement with britain, canada, australia, now zealand, known as five is. but now if the president says no more spying on allies, maybe the first question is who do we consider to be an ally? >> who do we consider to be an ally, and are there situations in which it is in our national security interest to do a little spying on our allies? it's not shocking, i think, to anybody, even the foreign leaders who are now raising protests, that the united states engages in surveillance, even with government that say we consider our friends. there is a balance to be struck here. and the question, i think, is has that gotten out of balance because of these incredible new technological capabilities we have to listen to the german chancellor when she's on her personal cell phone. >> i'm going to interrupt you, susan. my apologies. but marilyn tavenner has begun her testimony. she is, again, head of the center for medicare an medicaid services. let's listen. >> and those who are not part of a group plan could go to get affordable coverage. we know that consumers are having difficulty enrolling via the marketplace website. it is important to note that the affordable care act, however, is more than just a website. it creates a new market which allows people to access quality, affordable health care. it allows them to have insurance options. it creates a pooling of consumers into statewide group plans that can spread the risk between sick people and healthy people, between young and old, and then bargains on their behalf to get them the best deal on health insurance. by creating competition where there wasn't competition before, insurers are now eager for new business and have created new health care plans with more choices. the premiums for coverage were lower than expected and millions of americans will also qualify for tax credits to make the coverage even more affordable. we know that consumers are eager to purchase this coverage, and to the millions of americans who have attempted to use healthcare.gov to shop and enroll in insurance care coverage, i want to apologize to you that the website has not worked as well as it should. we know how desperately you need affordable coverage. i want to assure you that healthcare.gov can and will be fixed and we are working around the clock to deliver the shopping experience that you deserve. we are seeing improvements each week and by the end of november the experience on the site will be smooth for the vast majority of users. over the past month, millions of visited healthcare.gov to take a look at new health care coverage under the affordable care act. in that time, nearly 700,000 applications for coverage have been submitted across the nation. more than half of those are in the federal marketplace alone. this tremendous interest confirms that american people are looking for quality affordable health care coverage. we know that the consumer experience has been frustrating for many americans. some have had trouble creating accounts and logging into the site, while others have received confusing error messages or had to wait for slow response times. this initial experience has not lived up to our expectations or the expectations of the american people and it is not acceptable. we are committed to improving the performance and have already made progress. in the first few days when the site went live, few customers could create an account. now over 90% can. we've updated the site several times, fixing bugs and improving the healthcare.gov experience and added more capacity in order to meet demand. we are pleased with these quick improvements and parts of the system are already working well. for example, the data hub, the routing tool that provides an efficient and secure way to verify information submitted by consumers is sending determinations to the marketplace in less than 1.2 seconds. social security has reported 4.2 million transactions with the hub and the irs has responded to more than 1.3 million requests. even with the success, we know there's still significant work to do and we've called in a team of experts led by jeff zients to analyze the site, identify and prioritize fixes. we spent the last few weeks -- last week going over that. and while these problems will require a lot of hard work, the bottom line conclusion is this health care.gov site is fixable. to get the job done, we've identified a clear path forward. a lot of fixes will be undertaken one by one. to ensure the work is done as quickly and efficiently as possible we've enlisted qssi to serve as general contractor with this project. they are familiar with the complexity of the system and the work they provided for healthcare.gov, the federal data hub, is working well and performing as it should. qssi has the skills and expertise to help us address these problem. they will work with leadership and contractors to prior ties the needed fixes and make sure they get done. we are committed to improving the consumer experience with healthcare.gov. i encourage people to continue to aploy by phone, by mail or finding local help in their community. the fact is the product of the affordable care act, a marketplace for quality affordable health insurance will work. the product is not going away, and the people are not going to continue to wait. we know the price is not changing. we know americans have time to apply and enroll in affordable coverage. thank you, chairman. >> well, thank you. >> e.j., she said i want to a l appaologize that the web has no worked as well as it should. what are you expecting from these questions and what do you think she can do to help further the administration's cause? >> well, i think that what she needs to do is say here is why we think it's fixable by the end of november. i think the administration has set itself a very hard target in the public's mind here. they're saying just after thanksgiving, this is going to work for most people. now, they got a little wiggle room. what is the definition of most. but i think they're going to be judged by whether people can access this site and get insurance. and so i think she needs to take people through why they think these problems are not problems that are so fundamental this they have got to reconstruct the entire thing. i think she's going to be pressed hard on that, not only by republicans but by democrats who voted for this thing, because they don't want to be stuck out there next year in an election year having to explain a website that still doesn't work. >> let's go back to the hearing. this is the chairman, the republican from michigan, checking her. >> i don't have that metric with me but i'll check on it. >> i believe those are numbers that cms has put out. the associated press reported in early september that there was a memo prepared for the assistant -- by the assistant secretary for planning and health. are you aware of that press story and that memo? i think it went through your office to secretary sebelius? >> it went through the enrollment numbers? >> yes. and it said that there were month-to-month predictions of enrollment numbers showing a path to the seven million that i mentioned. >> right. >> could you make that memo available to the committee? >> certainly. >> according to the press report, the memo estimated that 494,620 people would sign up for health insurance under the program by october 31st. we're obviously very near that date. have you met that estimate? >> we will not have those numbers available until mid-november. >> so do you not know? do you not have any idea of how many people are enrolled or -- >> folks are still in the process of enrolling both in the state-based exchanges and in the federal exchange, and we will have those numbers available in mid-november. >> are you getting those numbers? >> am i getting those numbers? not yet. not from the state. >> you have no numbers on who's enrolled, so you have no idea? >> we will have those numbers available mid-november. >> so no one is forwarding even weekly updates on -- >> i think you've seen some of the press, and i think that was on the graph earlier about what states have listed. we will get those numbers in mid-november. >> but i understand you're not publicly releasing those numbers, but i'm asking do you have any idea of on a weekly basis how many people enrolled? how do you not know how many people have enrolled? >> chairman kemp, we will have those numbers available in mid-term. >> but is your staff updating you on those? are you getting those on a periodic basis? i realize you're not prepared to give this to the committee, even though this is a government program and we're trying to do oversight here and we're trying to understand what the problems are. do you have some idea of what those problems might be in terms of the numbers? >> i'm not quite sure what you're asking me. >> well, you've said that 700,000 people have completed the application process, so clearly you're getting some information. do you have any idea of how many of those can move to the next step of enrolling, of looking at plans, how many are eligible? how many have decided to enroll? >> once individuals complete the application, then they go into the shopping experience where they can look at plans. we do get numbers on the number of applications and then we need to break those out. that's what i'm saying, this is part of the rollout that we will give in mid-november for the october data. >> so you do have the applications, which is the 700,000 number. >> yes. >> but you don't have how many people successfully enrolled. >> i'm saying people are still in the process of enrolling. >> of those 700,000, do you know how many of those are eligible for medicaid at this point? >> we have some information on who is eligible for medicaid and then obviously states have their own information about that, and it depends on whether a state is expanded or not and what's going on inside. it's very state specific. >> can you share with the committee the information you have about those that have enrolled that are eligible for medicaid? >> we will also have that information available in mid-november as well. >> because that would mean of those 700,000, a significant portion could not be enrolli enrolling -- would not be in the exchange if they're qualifying for medicaid, isn't that correct? >> we will have that information available for you in mid-november. >> but the law is if they are eligible for medicaid, they are not enrolling in the exchange. that's my question. >> correct. >> so there could be a significant portion of that 700,000 that would not be enrolling in an exchange, is that correct? >> there could be numbers in there that will be eligible for medicaid, that's correct. >> do you know how many of the 700,000 have qualified employer-sponsored insurance and, therefore, will not be eligible for the exchange? >> those individuals who have employer-sponsored insurance usually at the end of the application, they're asked that and if that's the case, they usually don't proceed. >> do you know how many of those 700,000 are young adults, say under the age of 26 who might choose to stay on their parents' plan if it's cheaper? >> i do not. >> and do you know how many are undocumented aliens and who may not be eligible to enroll in the exchange? >> as you're aware, we actually have a connection through the data hub to check for that. if they are not eligible, they do not complete the application and do not go on to shop. >> but of these 700,000, do you have any idea how many are just looking and how many are trying to enroll? >> we actually look at the people who are shopping and obviously the majority of the people who are completing applications are there to actually purchase insurance and so they continue to go through the shopping experience. >> well, there are media reports that say as many as 80% of that 700,000 number are actually eligible for medicaid. is that a number you'd dispute. >> i don't know where that media report is or how they would get that information. >> if that's true, that's the only information we're getting frankly today. i frankly would have hoped for a little bit more from you. but if that's true, then less than 140,000 of these applicants are potentially enrollees in the exchange and that's assuming they don't have employer-provided coverage, that's assuming they can't stay on their parents' plan or otherwise ineligible in some other way. that means you're likely to hit less than one-quarter of this october estimate of 494,620. how many people did you estimate would enroll between november 15th and december 15th, which we're two weeks off from that period? >> i don't have that in front of me. i'll be happy to get you that information. >> if you could get that to the committee, i'd certainly appreciate that. but given that the back-end systems aren't working and insurers have resorted to manually enrolling people one by o one, i just think the system doesn't literally have the human resource capacity to manually enroll the numbers that are being projected here. i assume that many people are holding off, are the young and healthy. so the risk pools in these exchanges are not going to align with the projections. so i think not only are we going to miss the seven million enrollee targeted, it appears we're going to miss the demographic makeup as well and that's going to be very important to have a functioning system. if the demographics are wrong and there aren't as many young people enrolling, what happens then? what happens to premiums? >> i think the premiums are locked down for 2014, so obviously the next six months of enrollment are critical. i'll remind you that enrollment does occur until march 31st of 2014. i'll also remind you that the massachusetts experience was very slow initially and then it started to ramp up over time. we expect the same time of projections. >> but it doesn't look like you're even meeting your own projections that you had prepared. >> i have not listed any information on enrollment. i think there are some assumptions you're making. >> well, i'm just referring to this associated press memo that i appreciate you're willing to give to the committee that said that half a million people would sign up by october 31st and that they would enroll. but if we don't meet this demographic of 2.3 million young people, i mean it's very clear that premiums will go through the roof, whether in the next few months or in the future. and if that's where we're headed, and it appears that we are, how will you provide relief to individual americans who don't want or can't afford this insurance and how do we prevent the premium spike in 2015 as insurers will readjustment their prices to reflect the actual enrollee demographic? >> currently if you look at the premiums for 2014, we did not see premium spikes. we actually saw a very competitive marketplace. in fact we have over 200 issuers just in the federal exchange alone who have offered more than 3,000 plans at very competitive prices. so markets have as many as 54 plans in a market. we've also seen 25% new issuers in markets. so far what we've seen is the absolute opposite of what you're suggesting. >> have you enrolled in the plan? >> i have employer-sponsored insurance. i would not be eligible for the plan. >> from the federal government, is what that you mean? >> yes. >> so you're not participating in obama care? >> i'm participating in employer-sponsored insurance, which 85% of the country does. >> so you have government insurance so you're not -- have you gone on the site and tried to enroll or tried to shop for plans? >> i haven't gone on to shop for the plans. i went on and actually signed up for an account just to see what it looked like and go through the application process but did not sign up for coverage. i'm not eligible for coverage nor did i shop. >> i just want to mention to you a letter that i received from my district and this man wrote me and said my wife has been recently informed by her insurance carrier that her health care policy does not comply with the affordable care act. now we must purchase a new policy to get the same coverage at an 18% increase in our premium. so what happened to the if you like your insurance you can keep it question? what would you say to that individual? >> well, i would take them back to preaffordable care act days where in fact if you were in the individual market, you were living at a 50% turn. half the people in the individual market prior to 2010 didn't stay on their policies. they were either kicked off for pre-existing condition, they saw their premiums go up at least 20% a year, and there were no protection for them and sometimes they were in plans that they thought were fine until they actually needed hospitalization and then they found out it didn't cover hospitalization or it didn't cover cancer. so i would take them back to the fact that since 1986, health care costs and coverage have been the number one issue for small businesses for the last 20 to 30 years, and we've been talking about it for the last 20 or 30 years. that's actually why i came into this job is to try to deal with this issue. so now what i would say is this. now if in fact the issuer has decided to change the plan, didn't have to, plans were grandfathered in in 2010, if they didn't make significant changes in cost sharing and this sort of thing, they could keep the plans that they had. but some insurance companies have decided, and i think that's what you were referring to in your opening statement, that they want to offer new plans. if they offer new plans, they have to come into the requirements of the affordable care act which are you have to offer the ten essential coverage benefits, you cannot judge people on pre-existing, you cannot discriminate based on sex. there are lots of things that are required under the affordable care act that actually protect consumers. but these premium increases were going on a long time prior to the affordable care act. in fact we've seen the most premium moderation in the last three years than we've seen probably in 15 or 20 years. so that's what i would say to them. i'd try to explain to them the real issues. >> well, the carrier told them that the plan didn't comply, but nothing you said had anything to do with how they can get their costs down, and i think that's the real problem that we're seeing here is that the costs are -- >> so what i would tell that individual is if their carrier is telling them they're changing the plan and offering an increase, that they would need to go take a look at what's available in their state and in their market, which is certainly something that's available to them through the exchange. >> at an 18% increase. all right. with that i'll recognize mr. levin. >> thank you. a warm welcome. the chairman talked about the website and you said it's going to be fixed. and i might say if everybody would pitch in to make it work, the goals that have been set would be more readily met. that's what happened with prescription drug program. we all pitched in to make it work. and it had major problems at the beginning. and instead of standing in the way, we said we didn't vote for it, let's make it work, and it began to work. if we all had the same spirit about aca, it would be more than helpful. but then the chairman asked you about the notices that are coming from the insurance companies, and i'd like to ask you about that. a gentleman from michigan who had an $800 blue cross plan got this notice from michigan blue cross. went into the website with the help of navigators and ended up with a blue cross silver hmo plan with tax credits in that case instead of $800 a month, it's $77 a month. let me refer you to the interview on "meet the press" with the blue cross florida ceo. he was asked by david gregory in florida, the oldest and largest health care plan provider, florida blue cross, confirmed it is cutting 300,000 policies. and this is what the chairman of blue cross of florida said. we're not cutting people, and i quote. we're actually transitioning people. what we've been doing is informing folks that their plan doesn't meet the test of the essential health benefits. therefore, they have a choice of many options that we make available through the exchange, and in fact with subsidy many people will be getting better plans at a lesser cost. so this has become a matter of legitimate discussion and i think all of us would appreciate your addressing it. >> sir, again, going back to prior to the affordable care act days, these individuals in a small group or individual market had no protections. they had no guarantees of coverage and they were still being charged somewhere between 20% or more premium increases year over year. so they could be kicked out at any time for pre-existing condition. sometimes they thought they had coverage when they did not. and when they went in and had a cancer dgsiagnosis or cardiac diagnosis they found out maybe they had a $500,000 hospital limit or certain disclaimers. then there was always if you were diagnosed with asthma or high blood pressure or some other chronic disease, you might not be able to get coverage at all. so that's what's different. that's the first part. the second part is in 2010 we told issuers to try to give some transition time, if they wanted to keep policies as they were currently defined, whether they were in a group market or individual market, they could. and so some of them elected to do that. now some of them are moving to the new standards, and the standards under the affordable care act are pretty simple. you have to have the 80% mlr so you can't be taking money more than the 20% to marketing, advertising profit. you had to beat the ten essential health benefits. you had to define co-pay, deductible and diseases in clear and understandable terms so people would know what they were buying. you had to have choices among plans. and then there are folks in the individual market who when they go on the site may qualify for tax credits. some in some states may actually qualify for medicaid expansion. but this is not -- this problem existed long before the affordable care act. now folks are transitioning to the new standards of the affordable care act which guarantee you can't be denied. you won't be kicked off of a policy because you develop a problem. you may be eligible for tax credits, depending on your income, so these are important protection that are now available through the affordable care act. i think that's important. >> thank you. i yield back. >> mr. johnson is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. miss tavenner, thank you for being here. you know, i've been hearing from folks back home who rightfully so are very serious about their concerns and fears about their health care. steven, from plano, tried to purchase insurance through the exchange but ended up more confused and frustrated. operators on the 1-800 line didn't have answers to his specific questions. they simply reiterated that anyone could sign up for the exchange, but he should wait until later that evening or the next day to apply since the systems were having technical difficulty. worse, a single father and police officer in plano went to renew his 11-year-old daughter's plan. she has no medical problems, yet her premiums doubled. doubled. those are the real stories of fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have to live with the law that up to now has complete low failed them. miss tavenner the administration delayed the employer mandate for one year. the treasury witness before the committee testified the reason the administration granted big business a one-year delay is, quote, employers and their representatives have requested transition relief for 2014 because of the concerns about the difficulty or costs of complying with the employer mandate. secretary sebelius appeared before this committee and repeatedly said obama care was ready. it clearly wasn't. doesn't the failed launch indicate many individuals are going to have at least as much difficulty complying with the individual mandate as big business had with the employer mandate, yet from the announcement last night, you've only given individuals a six-week delay. cms announced 700,000 people had submitted applications for exchange coverage nationwide, but with all the challenges you have been facing, there are some serious questions about what these applicants know. cbs news reported, quote, the shop and browse feature is not giving consumers the real picture. in some cases, people could end up paying double what they see on the website. so how many applicants applied based on the wrong premium information? do you know? >> the completed applications were done -- the 700,000, these were individuals who completed applications and figured out if they were eligible for tax credit. i do not know where cbs news is getting their information about erroneous tax credits, so i can't address that. i will say that in the individual mandate issue, that folks can apply through march 31st. we have said public low that we will have the website in good working order by the end of november. we predicted folks will increase their interest in december and again in march so we believe we are in good shape to handle that. >> well, if you've identified the problem and are taking steps to identify who received faulty price information, apologize and provide the right information, are you doing that now? >> yes, sir. if we've given people the wrong information, we will certainly correct it, but i'm not sure what cbs news is referring to. >> i'd like to bring to your attention a story which ran last week in mother jones with the headline, quote, how healthcare.gov could be hacked. let me just quote from the article. security experts say the federal health insurance website is vulnerable to a common technique that hackers use to steal personal information. as you may know, i'm chairman of social security subcommittee and one of my longest outstanding priorities has been to protect americans' social security numbers. so for the record, is obama care website 100% safe from hackers who could steal americans' personal information, including their social security numbers? yes or no? >> we follow all the standards to protect information, including social security numbers. >> are you trying to say yes? >> am i trying to say yes, that we follow the standards to protect information? yes, sir. >> you know, folks are confused and scared. they have heard horror stories and are now experiencing them firsthand. how can they trust the federal government to not only fix the website, but more importantly give them the assurance that their personal information will be safe and their health care will be affordable? that if they want to keep their current plan, they can do so. the problems don't stop at the technical failures of a website. the real problem stems from the colossal failure to deliver what this law promised the american people. thank you, mr. chairman. >> all right, thank you. mr. rangel is recognized. >> thank you so much, mr. chairman. welcome to our distinguished committee. you may wonder why the administration appears to be under such severe attack by some members of this committee, especially as it relates to our goal to provide health care for 30 million americans that can't afford or don't have access to it. but it should give you some small comfort to know that historically the republican party always fought vigorously against these type of programs. i don't think that one republican voted for the social security act, even though those old enough enjoy the benefits. >> that's not accurate. >> that's not accurate. >> well, we'll see. maybe one or two, i don't know. >> no. >> but they opposed medicare. i spoke with president johnson and he shared with me at the ranch the people that had signed off on medicare. and anyway, it's big government, even if it saves lives. who cares. you're against big government. so why should obama be spared the attack because he wants americans to be healthy and strong and productive. we have to be consistent, and you guys and ladies have been. what i don't understand is that people aren't born as republican and democrats, and there has to be somebody, regardless of party label, that has suffered the embarrassment and the pain of being denied an insurance policy because they have been sick before. the people who actually need health care the most are too high a risk for some of the insurance companies, and this body, republican and democrats, allow things like this to happen. when i was a kid if my mother took three of us, three children to see a doctor and we weren't sick, they would think she's crazy because you couldn't afford a doctor. now health care will provide you getting the type of treatment to avoid you being sick and having to lose your dignity and in personal emergency rooms that provide the most expensive health care that we have. but republicans who have always been admired for being fiscal conservatives have certainly seen the price of health care, the lack of quality that we may have today, soar to become such a part of our national budget that in my opinion it's a threat to our national security because as prone as some of you are to enter into conflict with other countries, you need healthy young people to fight these wars, and health care is important from birth throughout one's life. so i don't know how you're going to explain when this program, which is destined to succeed, how politically you're going to explain your positions today. and since your entire political program is locked into hatred for the president and this program, it seems to me that we have to find other ways for us to politically combat each other, because i hate to see the day that there's no republican party and i have to rely just on my party for justice and fair play. and so we have to come together some kind of way to see what's best for america. now, you may not like this program and it certainly has been disappointing as a start, but what i want to see more from this committee is how can we improve and get quality health care for all americans. this has to be a part of the goal that all of you have. and you also have to recognize that when we're lucky enough to have public servants to work for the administration, whether democrat or republican, that they are servants the same way we are and they deserve some dignity as well. and so for america, i hope and have every reason to believe, like social security, like medicare, that the goodness of the program will prevail and if there's anything that we can do to help you, and there may be some republicans that will join with me, to make certain that we get rid of what is not working and make certain everyone has access to health care. i wish i could see the politics involved in this, because i am a partisan. but a stronger america means a stronger party, and that's what we are all here for. i just want to thank you for your dedication and for you to recognize that it's all political and we have to do our job and get on with it. thank you for your service. >> thank you. mr. brady is recognized. >> just a quick fact check on the blast from the past. republicans did support social security and medicare and more recently republicans were the ones that reformed medicare to add that important prescription drug benefit so we could have seniors lead healthier lives, stay out of hospitals and enjoy their grandchildren more. what's become abundantly clear, the flaw is not the website, the flaw is the law itself. this is what happens. we inject 159 new federal agencies, bureaucracies and commissions between you and your health care. this was supposed to be the easy part. just wait until you see the government making decisions about patient care, about reimbursements and treatments for -- that you receive from your local doctor and hospital. miss tavenner, i have a great deal of respect for you and i suspect many republicans do. yet the white house, secretary sebelius, you and your staff made repeated claims to the american public and to congress that everything would be ready on time. everything was a go. none of that proved to be true. now we're told everything will be okay very soon. so why should the american people believe you now? >> congressman brady, i would go back to what has worked in the last three and a half years since the affordable care act was implemented. we have been able to make a difference in the lives of coverage of young people. we've been able -- >> but specifically on the website and the exchanges. why should the american people believe you now? you've had nearly four years to get it ready. now you're saying in four weeks more it will be great. so what's different? why should anyone believe these claims? >> because i think we've identified two major problems. one had to do with the initial volume. and despite our best volume projections, we underestimated the volume, the interest in the site. >> you noted the volume isn't the same as the applicants and the enrollment. that you yourself visited the site. clearly you weren't shopping for it, others did as well. so to the chairman's point, the number of applicants, the number of enrollees still not known is pretty modest, wouldn't you agree? >> but i would tell you that the number of visitors to the site and the number of people interested in completing applications was larger than even our initial projections. we worked our projections off of the seven million number that chairman camp mentioned. we also worked it off our history with medicare part d. so we've added capacity to the system and we've improved system performance. that's the first thing. the second thing is that we have found some what i will call functional -- or glitches, as we call them, in the public term, in the actual application itself don't we' which we're repairing and that is the gradual improvements that you'll see the in the next four weeks. >> my constituents are frightened. like millions of americans they are now being forced out of the health care plan that they like. the clock is ticking on a website that's broken. their health care isn't a glitch, it's what they depend upon. so, you know, you've been described as a quarterback of the obama care rollout. i'm sure that's not the term you chose for yourself. but can you guarantee no american will experience a gap in their health care? >> so what i can guarantee is that we have a system that's working. we're going to improve the speed of that system -- >> excuse me. >> yes? >> you're saying the system right now is working? >> i'm saying it's working, it's just not working at the speed that we want and at the success rate that we want. those are the things we're working on. we also have alternative methods for folks. they can use the call center, they can use paper applications. then we have in-person assistance available in each state. so i can guarantee you that we can reach out to each individual and help them select a plan and enroll. so yes, sir. >> but to my point, this is not supposed to be fixed until november 1st. people have just two weeks to apply, enroll, be confirmed. so what happens on january 1st when they have an illness, they need patient care then, they have not heard back from the government. what do they do then? >> they actually have until march 31st to enroll. >> no, but their plan has been cancelled, as millions of americans have found out. it ends december 31st. and again, what my constituents want to know, what happened? >> the individuals who have received notices from their issuers is a different situation. they can certainly, obviously, sign up, transfer, as we talked about earlier with blue cross of florida, or they can go on the exchange or call the call center. >> but my point is, it's been cancelled. they don't have health care. they tried to get on the website unsuccessfully. they don't know if they're enrolled. it's january 1st. they're facing a gap in coverage. what do you tell them? >> and i'm telling you they can call the call center today and we will help them. they can go online, if they're not successful, we can help them through the call center. we also have people in their individual markets that can help them in person so there are more methods than just the website, and i think that's important. >> i think what's become clear as well is obama care is not ready. the question is why don't we make it voluntary? why don't we give americans a choice so they're not forced into this health care that they don't want. chairman, yield back. >> mr. mcdermott is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. rangel has asked me to correct something. the vote coming out of the committee was on a party line vote. there were no republicans who voted for it when it left this committee. or there were 81 who finally voted for it, mostly progressives, but there's none left in the congress. >> yes, 84% of republicans voted for the social security act 77 years ago. i'm glad we're debating current events. >> reclaiming my time, mr. chairman. with the way my republican colleagues have been fretting over the success of the affordable care act exchanges, you'd never know they spent $24 billion shutting down the country to get rid of it. suddenly they seem desperate to see a bill that they didn't want actually work. it's like the annie hall joke. the exchanges are terrible, and not enough people can enroll. now, this is one of the biggest reforms our country has ever made and we are only four weeks into medicare -- or into it. medicare wasn't built in a day. part d didn't roll out with snags along the way. as others have mentioned, many of the republicans who are now calling for blood over this rollout were begging for patience on part d. the kinks of that rollout were easily brushed off by many gop alarmists who sit on this dais. we waited six months to hold an oversight hearing on part d. we're barely four weeks into this one and we're already declaring it dead. it is premature death. we would have all loved to see this launch be seamless and smooth, but we can't get caught up in the glitches and the technical difficulties and lose our perspective. help lines are up and running. i want to put the first chart up, because i think that you need to know that it's working in some states in this country. we've had a health plan finder in the state of washington that's been out on the street before october 1. in washington state we were ready to go and we have got 92,000 people who have now enrolled. now, there's a difference between enrolling and being approved, having your plan approved, because you have to make your first payment. so when you talk about enrollment, you may be talking about something different, you're not comparing apples and oranges. but there are states in which it's working. people can sign up by mail, in person. we had actually a mobile sign-up van that's going around the state, stopping in small towns and giving people a chance to talk to somebody. 49,000 people are already in the program. not just finished the application. now, there have been some glitches, even in our state. but we got around them. our country does have a serious problem, however, with access to quality health insurance and it's not being caused by websites. all of the computer programmers in the world aren't going to be able to help the 180,000 hoosiers who fall into the affordable coverage gap because indiana isn't expanding its medicaid. of course that's nothing compared to georgia's 400,000 people who aren't going to get anything or florida's 760,000, and then of course there's texas. texas is always the best. and they're not going to be outdone. texas boasts 1,046,430 people who will simply get nothing. no medicaid and, i guess they can come to the government exchange, which people here want to kill. that's over a million texans, working poor with minimum wage jobs, multiple of them, and they are just trying to get by. now, they could be covered at no cost to themselves or the state of texas. but instead the gop wants to see this president fail because they'd rather let their constituents go uninsured than compromise. those texans and floridians and hoosiers are simply out of luck. meanwhile, in other red states, like kentucky, they have enrolled already. 26,000 people through the state exchange or expanded medicaid. arkansas, now they don't want it either and they don't want to accept the medicaid money. they constructed their own way in cooperation with the federal government and they have got 56,000 people enrolled in arkansas. now here's a red state that worked very hard to partner with the federal government and arrive at a solution that's working for its residents. it's time really to start working together. 44 attempts to repeal this law. it's now law, folks. it's now up and running. it's going to run and it's time to stop this kind of sniping and get together and figure out how to make it work. no one on our side thinks the law is perfect. >> thank you. time's expired. mr. ryan is recognized. >> thank you. thanks for being here. i think what we're seeing here are all these rude awakenings that the american people are waking up to find. promises made and promises broken. we had a hearing here in this room on august the 1st with the irs. the irs confirmed that the delay in the employer reporting requirements would mean that the irs would not have the data on the back end from employers until 2016 to verify if an individual had been given an offer of affordable employer-sponsored health insurance in 2014. now, the reason this matters is that determines whether a person is eligible for a taxpayer funded subsidy or not. to mitigate this, dan wurffel told us, quote, we're going to help the individual at the front end when they're navigating through the exchange to understand whether they have an employer plan. let me ask you this. of the 700,000 applicants you've received, how many of them did you verify whether or not they have been offered or have -- been offered employer-sponsored insurance? >> the verification of employer-sponsored insurance is part of the application process. so if in fact that was available to them, they would not go on and complete the application. >> so it's just a self attestati attestation, is that what you're saying? >> we ask some additional questions. if you go online, it requests additional information and we have ways of verifying whether or not employer-sponsored coverage was offered. so it's not just as simple as yes or no. if they don't have it, it's a no, and so we accept that. if it's a yes, then we try to work with them to see if they're eligible for anything or not. >> okay. so i look at yesterday. you released a report that talked about premiums for young adults. the report admits, quote, these estimates do not take into account the tax credit eligibility requirements. young adults on their parents plans. let me ask you this. are you proactively finding out if individuals under the age of 26 are eligible -- who are eligible to stay on their parents plan are doing that or not, because they're not eligible for a subsidy then as well. >> what we've seen is since the affordable care act, we have over three million young adults who are getting coverage through their parents plans which is pretty much the pool we anticipated, so they are going through their parents plans. >> when they go on the
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what's going on with the obama care website. this is a live picture and you're looking at medicare chief marilyn tavenner. she had major responsibility for the health care overhaul and was just confirmed in may, though with strong bipartisan support in the senate. she also has a long-time friendship on the republican side with eric cantor. the head of the committee says he expects her to shed some light on systemic failures. did she see the problems coming? did she tell hhs secretary sebelius? i want to bring in our company. e.j. dionne, susan page is usa today's washington bureau chief. good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> let's start with who she is. i think it's interesting. she was a nurse in the e.r., she worked her way up to ceo of a couple of big hospitals. so she knows something about running complicated organizations. susan, what are you expecting to see this morning? >> i think she's going to get a more respectful hearing than kathleen sebelius is likely to get tomorrow, but this is a warm-up for tomorrow's hearing with secretary sebelius. you know marilyn tavenne
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coa coast>> ainsley, patti ann, good morning to you. it seems like a year since super storm sandy impacted the east coast impacting 24 states where we are standing here. there was a huge set back months later after the storm came through. the disrecovery process is ongoing. >> part of that include a massive buyout plan. they will knock down homes in sandy affected communities and offering residents prestorm value in their home. staten island is the first area to be bought out. >> i signed the papers, accepted their offer. they have been more than fair. >> in the ocean breeze section of staten island the neighborhood remains mostly deserted bud they are vowing to rebuild. >> a year later they are under repair no kitchen, no bathroom, this room is painted and the floor went down a year later. we have a long way to go. >> along jersey shore in seaside heights they began to rebuild only to suffer a major set back. it may have been compromised water and sand we have the time lapse of putting it back together a rush to get this boardwalk together where we are standing and still in a portion of the boardwalk which opened in had may and the bars and grills and all of the shops you can see behind us. in fronted of me is where you can't see where the fire line is where they ripped up the boardwalk where they stopped it from spreading to more business that is had already been consumed pushed obviously by the winds at 20 miles per hour. it will be a day of emotions for people around seaside heights and up and around the boardwalk. >> i was out there after the fire. the foiks alks are resilient. thank you for that live shot. >> a tragedy on the road for country super star jason all dean. his tour bus hit and killed a man. albert kennedy walked out in the middle of the roadway and was hit by the bus. his family stating quote in all of the years i have been touring and all of the miles we have driven nothing prepares for you for something like this to happen. i am praying for albert kennedy's family and friends today. no charges were filed. >>> officer spotted jail escapees 20 miles from the jail. >> they paid for their stuff they walked out. the cops were out there one stopped dropped his stuff the other one took off down the alley. >> the four broke free climbing out of a trapdoor above the shower. at this hour the two suspects remain still at large. >>> two florida girls go to court today for allegedly bullying 12-year-old rebecca is heed is heed wig soe /* /- sedwick so badly she took her life. she jumped to her death last month after police say she was tormented in person and on-line for nearly a year. >>> another person has been hurt by a fair ride at the north carolina state fair. this just four-days after five people were hurt on the vortex. a worker was taken an older vortex ride apart when the seating section fell on him. the family says his back is broken in three places. >> you never want to see nobody like this. i said are you okay? i mean are you okay physically, are you going to live through the situation. >> he is in critical condition. meanwhile fair ride operator timothy tutero who was accused of tampering with a ride is being held on 225,000 dollar bond. a britted tish man and known occupied protester is arrested accused of hacking military computer systems. over the past year she was able to hack into systems including nasa and the army corps of engineers. he has been released on bail until february of next year. >>> two senior members of the al qaeda linked terror groups al-shabaab. military officials wouldn't give any details about the counter terrorism strike. but the explosive expert was a person of interest. we have been saying it the white house is confirming it. americans may not be able to keep their healthcare plans under the obama care. they have known this since 2010. kelly wright joins us now from washington with more on the huge blow to americans. >> good morning to you. the affordable care act continues to prove problematic. the president always promised if you already had health insurance you could keep your plan no matter what. now it turns out it is a promise that can be broken and likely will. there are some existing healthcare plans that people do have that don't qualify for obama care. they are pushing legislation to help consumers keep their current plan. it is causing critics to lash out at the president after lengthening the enrollment period to avoid 6 weeks to avoid fines. >> this is a law the president continues to revisit the law, he continues to make changes. this is a time to give every american an opportunity to delay it a year. >> the president still saying wd to sign up for it. >> you lack at the number of young people who want health insurance who are having trouble affording it. secretary kathleen seb beal why yous will have to discuss that deal. she is meeting for a congressional hearing tomorrow. she will be questioned on the healthcare.gov web site. >> president othis is in respone to a deaning issue over a report the nsa listened in on phone calls of andrea miracerkel. no final decision is made when it comes to monitoring foreign leaders due the thought of prohibiting this process is a big shift for the nsa. >> the amanda knox retrial apparently the return of congress now. on tuesday knocks was convicted of killing her british roommate in italy back in 2009. she only served 4 years of her 26 year sentence. this after an appeals court through out her conviction. this march the italian supreme court ruled knox must be retried for murder. >> a marker for john f. kennedy's web site will be returned back to the eternal flame place today. it was moved after construction that has been going on since may. >>> we are all tied up at two games a piece in the world series. in the 7th inning it is 1 to 1 david ross at bat and he ripped one down the line. two batters later he hits one into center. that driys in the run. the red sox up 3-1. david roth the red sox win a final 3-1 three games to 2 and they are headed to boston for game six on wednesday. >>> if you are a st. louis sports fan, the rams took on the seahawks in st. louis. the qb russell wilson had two touchdowns. they through two interceptions. seattle wins 14-9. >>> it is now 9 minutes after the top of the hour. she is tracking form that could bring flooding and snow to the middle of the country. good morning maria. >> we have needing all across the center of our country. we have it across parts of the rockies and freezing rain advisories. we could be looking at snowfall 10 inches of snow along some of the higher elevations. a lot of wind with this storm system. between the snow and the rain we have freezing rain. it is going to track eastward and produce heavy rain through texas and arkansas. six inches of rain and hire amounts possible. by tomorrow the storm continues to move west ward. it will be through oklahoma and kansas. thank you maria. >> turns out 3 popular vehicles aren't as safe as you might think they are. they are getting the boot from if safe cars. we have that and other top business news. >> consumer reports dumping three of toyota's best known cars from the recommended safety list the camry and suv and prius performed poorly when the front corner is strike. this happens in about a quarter of all real life collisions. here's another consumer alert for you. you might be spending 250 dom dollars a year more on milk. it could double to 8 bucks if they don't pass the farm bill. members of the house and senate are continuing negotiations if they don't come to an agreement dairy supports farmers could happen at the end of the year. an extra inch goes a long way. the plane maker air buzz wants to put an end to the shrinking airline fees. it wants a minimum standard of 18 inches an inch more than the current standard in the 1950s. they are showing the extra room helps passengers sleep a lot better. >> no one is complaining about that one. they are packed in like sardines nowadays. >>> 12 minutes after the top of the hour a manhunt is underway after a little girl is snamed from her own bedroom. >> they go to great length to get kids to talk to each other on the playground. wait until you hear what they are banning. >> more than a dozen people are dead. leaving hundreds without power. we have the latest from there. good morning, rachel. >> good morning. they warned the storm would be short and sharp they got that right but they didn't predict the effect on businesses like this and how long it would last. it has had no power. since it is not on the gas main that means no heat. temperatures are starting to fall. they gathered in places like this at local book shops where they have been doing their best to keep warm and stick together. it has been tricky getting by in pitch black last night. the pair require council, do you have any information on when the power will be am coulding back on? >> no, no the yet. we know they are working on it. we realize it could take sometime. we are not holding our breath. the biggest issue is getting information out to people. >> of course no internet. very frustrated here. like many communities they are still without power. >> rachel, thank you. >>> police in colorado are looking for this man. take a look at this sketch. they say he tried snatching a little girl right out of her bedroom in the middle of the night. they are now offering a 10,000 dollar reward for information leading to his arrest. thankfully the brave 8-year-old managed to escape. >> the young girl immediately cried out, immediately put up a fuss and a struggle. who knows if that saved her life. >> the girl's father tried to run after the suspect but he got away in a gray bmw. >> a mitt man is released from jail. they released kevin trudeau, he spent nearly a week behind bars for failing to pay a judge: he de vooefed viewers with weight loss claims. they believe he is hiding assets in companies. >>> it is time to brew on this. a school banned phones to help with social skills. they banned the use of cell phone devices on the playground. they fear they are missing interaction with peers. >> we asked you should schools ban phones during recess or break times? you can tweet them to us at foxfriendsfirst or shoot us an e-mail to fox friend foxfriendsfirst@foxnews.com. we are interested in read some of them. we will read them later in the show. 18 minutes after the top of the hour. not so lucky to be hit by lightening once or twice but lucky to be alive. >> what i remember is a loud boom it dropped me to my knees. right when i was going to my knees it hit me again. >> more on that than's amazing survival story. >> he may have nine lives. we have heard accounts have nine lives but it seems like maybe some pups do, too. how they are getting another leash on life and what you can do to help. first check out this house in west virginia glowing for halloween with 3,000 carved pumpkins. it has been drawing people for 21 years. >> chris brown getting another break. they reduced his assault charge from fell me to misdemeanor. the judge ordered him to return to court and stay 100 yards away from the victim cops say he attacked outside of a hotel in washington, d.c. the 24-year-old is still on probation for beating up rihanna back in 2009. the video was abc slightly incredible. watch as a briz iazilian surfer rides one of the biggest waves ever. >> wow. carlos burrel is believed to have broken the world record for riding the estimated 100-foot wave off of the coast of portugal. the previous record 78 feet set by hawaiian surfer back in 2011. he accomplished that feat shortly after saving a fellow surfer from drowning. >> a day for that guy. >> we are familiar with problem children but also problem dogs. some owners are turning their challenging pets into helpers. >> spencer is a biteder. brody, chews on furniture. all of them ended up on a shelter of a list to be euthanized because their owners had given up on them. >> i can't understand how a person can have a dog for 10 years now they don't want them any more. >> nearly 40,000 dogs and cats euthanized. that's why bobby dorafshar is training these beautiful dogs for free. he figures if they are trained someone will adopt them. bobby owns canines only a training and daycare center. he started pay it forward canines only. he takes in rescues and trains them for six weeks. the transformation is amazing. the transformation is amazing. the ack card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere, every damn day. now, tell me, what's in your wallet? i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free -- it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out 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secret. why the white house wanted to stay silent about the osama bin laden raid. >> tour bus tragedy, a country super star on board when his bus hits and kills a man. what the singer is saying this morning, fox and friends first continues right now. ♪ >> as we take a live look outside of our studios in mid town manhattan. welcome to "fox & friends first". um patty bran in fo -- patty br heather childers. >> i am ainsley earhardt. >> it has been a year since the hurricane's deadly destruction. now they are trying to rebuild. >> we are joined live from staten island which was one of the hardest hit communities. good morning, car carrie. >> 700,000 were changed the storm. this is a main road on staten island. it was entirely under water after the storm. a lot of death and destruction here on staten island. 23 people were killed. it was the highest death toll of any of the five boroughs of new york city. other people were trapped and had to be rescued. thousands of homes were damaged. you can see the homes that were here have since been rebuilt. fema has doled out over $100 million to people here on staten island. more aid is needed to get things back to the way they were before the storm. president obama visited this area after the storm and he was very inspired all of the fact that people had come together and it was really a sense of neighbors helping neighbors here on staten island. it was at the midland beach neighborhood. >> kerry drew live in staten island. thank you. >>> two florida girls go to court today for allegedly bullying 12-year-old rebecca is heed southbounding /* /- sedwig so badly she took her life. she jumped to her death after she was tormented in person and on-line for nearly a year. >>> new insight into frantic moments before the costa concordia sank off ofity tal lae last year. he is said to have cried out, madonna what have i done as the cruise ship hits the rock. they clachlz too slow in ta-- t say he was too slow taking action. >>> country super star jason alde aldean's tour bus driver hit and killed a man in indiana. albert kennedy walked out into the middle of the road apparently and was hut by that bus. al dean was the only badge on board at the time. the singer released a statement to kennedy's family saying, in all of the years i have been touring and all of the mails we have driven nothing prepares you for something like this to happen. i am praying to for albert kennedy and friends today. >> the sheriff said no charges would be filed calling this accident unavoidable. >> two of the four inmates who escaped through the plumbing at a jail in oklahoma are back behind bars now. officers spotted them at a convenience store less than 20 miles from the jail. >> they paid for their stuff they walked out. the cops were out there. one stopped dropped his stuff. the other one took off down the alley. >> the four broke free on sunday by climbing through a trapped door above the shower and made their way outside. a woman found their orange jump suits and called police. here are their pictures. they remain at large. >>> the administration considered keeping the news of osama bin laden's death a secret. they said yes they were concerned about sovereignty issues social media helped push the administration to release the information. >> what we have been saying is now the white house is confirming it. americans might not help keep the healthcare plan under ott b obama care. doug luzader is live in washington with the latest this morning. >> this will be quite a day on capitol hill. in the hot seat is centers of medicare and medicaid. she will have to describe first of all why this web site has been a flop. they are acknowledging what has become increasingly clear by others. hundreds of thousands of americans are losing their insurance plan because in many cases the coverage isn't as extensive than they demand. some will paoloer premiums. some with higher premiums and deductibles. >> they don't provide minimum services that have had a lot of fine print that leaves consumers in the lynurch often because of carve outs for preexisting conditions. those are no longer allowed because the affordable care act sa says healthcare is not a privilege it is a right. >> you have millions forced into part-time work saying healthcare premiums sky rocket and insurance is being canceled because of obama care. >> the administration did formally extend an enrollment deadline by about six weeks yesterday. something we knew would happen last week. republicans are talking about another pressing issue. whether all of that information is safely concealed from prying eyes. >> thank you, doug. last knightsen tonight -- last tore rarand paul the thing abou care is the chief justices who decided the case aren't going to have to live under it. they will get special healthcare they won't have to live under obama care and i think that's wrong. >> despite is being a challenge the american people will support it. >> last week we told you the story of the obama care operator who was fired from her job after she spoke to sean hannity. not only did he give her a year's salary of 26,000 dollars he also said he would help her find a new job. you had an interview today, give us the good news? >> i got the job. i am excited. i get vacation time, bonuses. not too far for my kids as well. >> it's a better -- it's better all of the way around for you. in other words, you are in a better position than you were? >> yes, sir, i am. >> president obama and former president bill clinton leading a tribute for former democratic house speaker tom foley today. other tributes expected from speaker john boehner and house my knownity leader served as speaker from 1989 to 1995. he died october 18th of complications from a stroke. he was 84 years old. honoring the sacrifices of dogs in combat dedicated in texas. it is in descriscribed with the guardians of freedom. it is the home that trained dogs for all branchs of the military since 1958. >> they say lightening doesn't trike twice but that wasn't the case for one man. it dropped me to my knees and when i was on my knees it hit me again. there were sparks eerie where. >> casey wagner was in st. joe texas when he was hit. despite sore muscles and shortness of breath he knows he is lucky to have survived. >> time for the first degree weather update with maria molina. >> she is tracking a storm that could bring flooding and snow to the in i had el of the country. good morning maria. >> we are talking about a storm system that has a winter side to it and a summertime side to it. we are talking about thunderstorms and even flooding possible across sections of texas and up into oklahoma. i want to start out with a winter site. we have a number of winter storm warnings in effect and advisories through sections of wyoming and february february. we could be looking at slippery roadways out here and 10 inches of snow in higher elevations in parts of the rockies wind gusts with the storm system up to 40 miles per hour. in terms of the heavy rainfall that is when you will be seeing 6 inches of rain possible into sections of arkansas and eastern portions of the state of oklahoma. now severe weather is also possible. large hail and damaging winds. moir widespread risk as we head into texas and parts of iowa and nebraska. temperature wise to the east of the storm system. it will be warming up like in raleigh, north carolina. same goes for you in atlanta. patti ann and ainsley in the northeast when we see temperatures warming up as well. new york city you could reach 70 by friday. >> i am not complaining. we will take it. thank you so much maria. 40 minutes after the hour. can't kick the cravings for comfort food? what if we told you cravings could be linked to mental illness? the new study you need to hear. >> patriot or pin head. casey waters hits the streets and this time bill o'reilly is on the list. you don't want to miss this. heart 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[ male announcer ] progresso. surprisingly bold flavor for a heart healthy soup. >> sometimes square never stops even in the middle of the night. an 885,000 dollar lawsuit has been filed against red bull. they claim it is responsible for a deadly heart attack in 2011. it has the same amount of caffeine as a cup of coffee but the lawyer says it also contains extra stimulants that make it more dangerous. red bull is discussing this specific case but this day health authorities around the world have found red bull safe to consume. >> a packaged salad expanded. fine foods expanding the recall of the salad from the factory in tobe peek kau, kansas. products distributed nationwide and in canada might be contaminated with listeria which can cause serious illness. potato salads, pasta, tuna and egg salads. the packages are marked with the plant id code 20 which is next to the best buy date. >> reaching for the ex true cookie or french fry may not be a lack of will power after all. doctors now say comfort eating is a mental illness much like anorexia or bulimia. they are more depressed eat in secret and are more critical of themselves. >>> we call out for work once in a while, right? government employees are using up benefits and racking up huge amounts of days off. d diane macedo joins us mowith mo on this. >>> it shows government workers were 38 percent more likely to take personal days or sick days. the they missed 50 percent more work hours than private tesecto did. it poled 60,000 households in the same week for a month. they choose 4 percent of government workers asking for work in the typical week compared to government workers who missed 2.1 percent of work hours. they had personal reasons like family opportunities or transportation problems. it doesn't count dabsences due o vacations or absences due to bad weather or weather. >> thank you so much, diane. the tame right now 47 after the hour. a big birthday surprise for a little girl in south jersey. we will show you more of the reunion that will warm your heart. >> plus a cell phone verses a gun. how one cell phone saved one life. >> let's check in with steve doocy to see what's coming up on "fox & friends." >> it was one year ago today that super storm sandy hit the new york area. we have a live report coming up in about an hour. judge napolitano will tell you not only how does the federal government want to track you in your car, they want to tax you for every stinking mile. dorothy hamill the ice skating legend joins us live. she has a great story to say to you. cheryl casone has the top five companies hiring right now and one of the funniest people in the world tim conway has a brand new book. he will be right here on the couch with us. it's your channel for news "the fox news channel." well, did you know that when a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, it does make a sound? ohhh...ohhh...oh boy! i'm falling. everybody look out! ahhhhh...ugh. little help here. geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know. anybody? >>> cell phones can do many things, even stop a bullet. a florida man pulled a gun on a gas station clerk and demanded money. when he didn't open the safe, the would-be robber fired a shot and took off. later when the clerk grabbed his cell phone from his shirt pocket, he found a bullet lodged in the screen of his phone. wow. >> we all know facebook can tell us a lot about a person but scientists are now saying they can piece together if people are romantically linked. using data from 1.3 million users, they measured how tightly people are connected by the number of friends they share. those with more common friends generally have stronger relationships. the data can also be used to find who are your closest friends. >> not completely scientific, but okay. "dancing with the stars" spoiler alert. another shocking elimination on the show. >> the couple leaving right now is nicole and sasha. >> nicole, better known as jersey shore star snooki, the latest celebrity to get the boot from the ballroom. the reality star was visibly upset and at one point started to cry. star wars fans have something to be excited about. a newly released blooper reel. the reel was first screened at this year's kamikcon in san diego. >> pinhead or patriot? the question bill owe really is asking again. jesse waters returned to boston to get the answer. >> pinhead or patriot? >> i like him. >> do you want to have a beer with this guy? >> yeah, i would like to have a beer with joe biden. >> he's a number two. >> a number two. >> what exactly do you do, mr. number two? >> you don't know who the vice president of the united states is? >> no, but i know the president, though. >> you should be proud. >> pinhead. >> why do you say that? >> you never know what's going to come out of his mouth. >> he looks like a pinhead. >> pinhead or patriot? >> half-and-half. >> half-and-half? >> i don't know how much support he has within the party. >> i'm going patriot. >> don't know what his job is. treasury or something. >> harry reid, what do you think he does? >> reid. >> he reads? >> one tiny little comment. >> pinhead. >> why is this guy a pinhead? >> so ultimately a party-line guy. >> he looks like a pinhead. >> harry? >> harry. >> i don't know. >> you've got to stop thinking about it. >> harry truman? in other news, forget the mid life crisis, now scientists know when men feel like life really begins. >> one school going to great lengths to get kids to talk to each other on the playground. they're banning cell phones and we want to know what you think. your tweets and e-mails next. ♪ ♪ mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. 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"fox & friends" starts right now. >>> good morning. it's tuesday, october 29. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. so remember when the president said this? >> if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. period. >> now the white house is admitting they were wrong. but when did they know exactly? >> tragedy on the road for one country music star when his tour bus hit a pedestrian and kills him. we'll tell you all we know this morning. >> how do you scare a somali pirate? just blast a little britney spears. how she is our secret weapon on the high seas. it didn't work for "american idol."
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. >> the problem with obama care isn't just the website, it's the whole law. >> the bottom line is the problems with obama care run deeper than just the website. >> the problems go well beyond a flopped website. >> it is clear obama care and flaws are much more than the website. the website is the tip of the iceberg. >> this week republicans smelled blood in president obama's claim no americans would be kicked off their existing plans. >> let me repeat this. nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have. >> and yet as nbc reports a detailed look at the legislation shows that the administration knew that more than 40 to 67% of those in the individual market, or some percentage of 14 million americans, would not be able to keep their existing plans. never mind the fact the new plans will offer more comprehensive coverage and sometimes at a lower price tag, this is clearly the next front in a war on the nation's health care law. >> we know this morning is the president knew that these letters were coming. in the president knew these letters were coming and still indicated that
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love to hear from you on twitter and facebook. the obama care fearmongering continues. now it's sharply focused on the initial implementation of the affordable care act. tonight's question -- what's the latest myth a right-wing uncle or high school buddy has told you about the healthcare.gov site or obama care. i'll share a couple later in the show. stay tuned. ...but he'd wait for her forever and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades. iams. keep love strong. now you can keep love fun with new shakeables meaty treats. but add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance and we won't just give you the partial value of items that are stolen or destroyed... ...we'll replace them with brand-new versions. so you won't feel robbed. again. just another way we put members first. because we don't have shareholders. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >>> big news from marco ru
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the white hot story out of obama care, the nbc news report confirming the white house knew millions would not be able to keep their health plans even as the president was promising just the opposite. we have aetna ceo mark bertolini reacting exclusively to that coming up on the "closing bell." >> let's get to the red hot market. a market in unchartered territory. the dow jones industrial average up. we've been steady the last hour. the magic number as you heard to watch, 15,767 would be an all-time high. we're close to it with a 90-point rally. nasdaq, take a look at where we are, technology a leader today. up 39 47. s&p 500 also in record-setting territory. if we close even just a point above where we are, yesterday we close at an all-time high. we're in unchartered territory with s&p 500 at 1769. let's talk about where the strength is today. will the dow do it here? new all-time high, bob pisani. what is the money say on the floor right now? 15 points away. 15676 would be a cleesing high for the dow jones industrial average. 15 points away. we're already at a new high on the s&p,
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explanation. maybe he wrote the wikipedia entry in the first place. we'll keep you posted on what sort of explanation the senator offers up, if any. now it is time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. have a grart night. >> tonight a federal judge has put it on hold. >> clearly unconstitutional. this is really all about politics. a better system of bipartisanship in texas. >> senators and governors both have to win statewide. >> finding common ground will always be our top priority. >> that's not how you -- >> i'm now a single issue voter. christie is off of my list. >> in the end he did more harm. >> he was like a general. >> ann colter. >> we're going to bring in chris christie. >> romney will be the nominee. >> the argument that senator wendy davis made in her filibuster in the texas state senate against a restrictive abortion bill carried the day in court when provisions of that law were found unconstitutional. one third of clinics were set to close their doors when the law would have gone into effect. one provision required doctors performing abortions to have admitting privileges of a hospital within 30 miles of that abortion facility. federal district judge wrote the admitting privileges provision of house bill 2 does not bear a rational relationship to the legitimate right of the state in preserving and promoting fetal life or a woman's health and in any event places a substantial obstacle in the path of a woman seeking an abortion of a non-viable fetus and is thus an undue burden to her. the judge struck down some of the law's restriks on the use of pills used to induce apportion. wendy davis issued this warning during her filibuster of the bill. >> i'd say if you vote for this bill you're simply happy to ignore medical science and watch women and children die for no reason. >> texas families are stronger and healthier when women across the state have access to quality health care. i would rather see our tax dollars spent on improving our kids' schools rather than defending this law. greg abott immediately filed an appeal to today's ruling. joining me now, msnbc and planned parenthood in houston, texas, one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. this must have been quiet a win down there today. >> yes, lawrence, thank you. this ruling is a victory for our parents. it's a ruling for women. it sends a clear signal across 50 states. it is unconstitutional for politicians to pass laws that take away the private personal health care decisions that women make in consultation with their physician. >> melanie, i just want to check one thing. the 30 mile rule of being knocked out, does that mean there won't be any facilities that will have to close as a result of any other provisions in this law? >> well, that remains to be seen. but what this does mean is that women across the state will have access to abortion care preserved for them. >> crystal, here is a george w. bush judge looking at what this legislature did and saying that it cannot stand. >> yes. and the piece that you highlighted that it was an undue burden, that is the judicial standard and what this judge found is that with a third of abortion clinics in texas likely to close as a result of this law, and no medical reason to require abortion providers to have admitting privileges, it just couldn't stand. what they call these laws is trap laws. essentially what they are is they are not designed to do anything other than force the closure of abortion clinics. in texas and in states across the country, 27 of these states have similar type trap laws where they pretend to be all about women's health but really their only purpose is to try to restrict access to abortion. >> now the attorney general running for governor, listen to an ad he is running now. >> we won't allow texas to be taken over by california style government. we will win this election because the people and values of texas are on our side. we know the power of the individual, what liberty means to the voters who go to the poles. >> wendy davis wants to turn texas into california. >> god bless her. >> california just expanded access to safe abortion by increasing the number of people that could provide it. california would be a much safer place for women to be compared to texas. i do want to temper the optimism. not all the provisions were challenged. there is still the 20 week abortion ban which were not challenged. so the supreme court has said that you can't put an undue limitation on women but there are still so many loopholes. >> i read what the judge did on the medication abortions. it seemed to me that he re-opened some possibility for the physician's discretion in how to handle that. >> yes. i mean, i have to agree with crystal. we are disappointed with that portion of this ruling. but on balance, this ruling is still a victory for texas women. >> this is snot the only state and the obviously where this is going on it is not the only part of our politics. i want to listen to what rand paul said in virginia today. >> in your lifetime, much of your potential or lack thereof will be known simply by swabbing the inside of your cheek. in the process, will we perhaps eliminate something, some part of our humanness or specialness if we seek perfection? will we be flying too close to the sun? my hope is that we don't lose our appreciation of the miracle that springs forth from tiny strands of dna. >> that was in the anti-abortion section of rand paul's comments, proving once again that rand paul is not actually a libertarian. >> a lot of folks who claim that label are not libertarians. rand paul supported the personhood amendment, opposes abortion in all forms. when we see the republican party gravitating more towards the libertarian branding we have to remember that is only in cerin regards but certainly not when it comes to a woman's right to choose her own medical decision. >> wendy davis is in an interesting spot here where she can't overplay this hand because it's a tricky issue when you're running in a general election in texas. >> absolutely. i think they are trying to peg her as an extreme candidate, associate her with later abortion but i also think they overplayed their hand. you saw thousands of women stand up against this, people around the world pay attention. that gives her financial advantage, a lot of star power and a lot of grass roots enthusiasm. i think he is worried if he is running ads. >> abbott is the guy who two hours after the supreme court struck down a provision said we're going to go forward with the voter id laws and redistricting laws that were deemed diskrim that tory. those laws are so burdensome on women in particular that wendy had trouble herself when she tried to vote early. she had to sign an affidavit because her name on her driver's license does not precisely match her name on the voter role. and greg abbott is at the center. >> rick perry said they will keep fighting it through the appeals process. what is your sense of the prospects of this as it goes through appeals? >> we would hope that the appellate court would look through 40 years of the supreme court decisions protecting women's access to abortion and ruling out any medically unnecessary burden. >> it seems to be a very careful selection of what they think they can get knocked out here. >> the circuit court they are the ones who upheld texas's approach to defund planned parenthood. it seems in this piece that planned parenthood and others were smart. >> they don't trust the current supreme court to uphold row. they don't want to give the chance to rule on something that may change the viability. >> going through that circuit on the way to the supreme court. >> they don't want to create a split on the circuit that will force the court. >> is that all part of the lingering that you have heard as the case has been moving? >> you know. >> the lawsuit was meant to challenge. the provisions that would have the most immediate, clear, and wide sweeping damaging effect to women. abortions past. 20 weeks around that is that we are weighing our options and looking to see what the best strategy is on the 20 week ban. >> melanie, crystal, erin, thank you all very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, ann coulter says she has a new love but someone should tell cruz that ann's love is a fleeting thing. and ann wants republicans to take a new pledge. americans take care of business. they always have. they always will. that's why you take charge of your future. your retirement. ♪ ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. listening, planning, working one on one. to help you retire your way... with confidence. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. ameriprise financial. more within reach. with 0-calorie monk fruit in the raw. it's made with the natural, vine-ripened sweetness of fruit, so you can serve up deliciously sweet treats without all the sugar. raw natural sweetness, raw natural success. >> ted cruz went to ireland. bill clinton was also rehearsing campaign moves for hillary clinton when the time comes. we will have all of that coming up. >> i have to have a chat with my love, ted cruz. >> anne coulter has a new love. >> romney will be my new love. >> and romney was the nominee and anne fell in love with romney and i wasn't the only one to notice how fickle she could be. >> now you're saying if romney's not the nominee we're going to lose. >> and after mitt romney lost, anne could not quite find her way back into the arms of chris christie. >> i must sayer i have loved chris christie, i am a single issue voter and christie is off my list. >> so now anne coulter loves ted cruz. if ann keeps up this kardashian pace, she will be throwing ted cruz to the curb sometime next year. ted cruz went to iowa for the third time this year. ted cruz's reception was warm but muted. >> we didn't accomplish our ultimate policy goal in this battle and we didn't because unfortunately a significant number of senate republicans chose not to unite and stand side by side with house republicans. had we stood together, i'm convinced the outcome would be very different. >> joining me now, not a lot of hooting and howling there at every word that ted cruz would say unlike his reception in texas last week. >> a little bit different there. i think he gave a speech of about 40 minutes long at some point. i don't know who could sit through a speech like that. i talked to some folks on ground there and they still think he is the front runner in terms of who the evangelicals like in iowa. he jumped ahead people like rand paul and marco rubio. they sort of had michelle bachmann and she was in the congress there and people thought she was a little bit goofy but now i think with ted cruz in some ways they feel like they have someone in a powerful position who can get stuff done or not get stuff done which is what they want to see happen. >> let's listen to what the winner of the last republican iowa caucus said on meet the press this weekend. >> in the end, he did more harm. i think it was not his objective. i think his objective was a laudable one. there is one thing to have a goal and another thing to have a plan to get you to the goal. >> so, rick santorum who doeses harbor thoughts of maybe doing this again, the running for president thing, very clear anti-ted cruz position. he thinks that's the bet for him to make? >> and lawrence, real quick, one sign that he might be running is no sweater vest. he has learned that hi might want to transition to the tie. >> he is running for the president this time instead of class president. >> exactly. there you see, that's the outer outer edge of the republican right in rick santorum. >> it used to be. now we have got this other ring. >> off the table. but that's the right edge saying the new right edge is too right wing. cruz has the right ideas and the wrong implementation. they lost the shut down debate and they lost it by deceiving and lying to their own base. that is number one. and number two with the coulter cruz connection. her policies do not match ted cruz because she is an incumbent aligned with an incumbent. cruz and others are saying that the primaries are fair game. >> she is saying she does not like primary sitting republican senators. >> there are 14 republicans up for reelection. seven are all right facing the conservative primaries. >> anne already said she needs to talk to her love about this disagreement. let's listen to norquist. >> what is your strategy and how does this work? i have never had a criticism of ted cruz's strategy because i have never been able to find it. >> i believe that is a criticism of ted cruz's strategy. >> that very much is. people like grover norquist is not a fan. people like john mccain are no friends of his at this point. when you have norquist, and he is sort of the money guy, the repeal all the taxes guy, that does not help him very much. we will see what happens with him over the next couple of years. everyone focuses on iowa. just ask president huckabee or santorum how good it is to win iowa in terms of your chances in the general or even your chances in the republican party primary fight. ultimately those chamber of commerce republicans really do matter. >> and what strikes me is there is safety in numbers, political safety, and so coming out against ted cruz, you have a lot of company in the republican party if you do that. >> that's the key part. he got to take this dance out farther than the incumbent establishment wanted. it blew up in everyone's face and they will continue to hang that on him. that's why we're seeing the louder noises and seeing bainer and mcconnel saying -- they don't always single him out but they say we're not doing this awful failed strategy again which everyone knows is the cruz strategy. he does still have the following whether people are making noise at a given event or not, he has the following of the right right. these are people watching the blaze, glen beck's network. >> that's good to know. >> that's where these guys are. and they have a subscriber base. it does not look like it's edging towards a majority but ted cruz can take cold comfort in that angry minority. >> we may see a ted cruz versus chris christie primary run off. let's look at this big endorsement. >> i don't endorse many politicians but chris christie is different. he is working with me. governor christie has given more funding to schools, given parents more choices and merit pay for good teachers. he's a good man -- excuse me. he's a great man. please join me in supporting chris christie for governor. >> the list is now three of candidates that shaquille o'neal has endorsed in his lifetime. al gore in 1999, barack obama for president only in 2012. only for reelection and now chris christie. >> he has a long list of products he has liked to endorse. gold bond powder, the icy hot patch is among them, too. what chris christie is doing, this is really about the black vote. he is trying to argue that he can get the black vote. it looks like he is on pace to get about 30% of the black vote. he has prominent endorsement from black preachers in new jersey. he is going to be making that argument in 2013 that he is a different kind of republican. between african-americans and latinos and he is going to get a pretty good majority or slice of that in his pam f -- campaign. will there be a republican candidate who can match george bush's ratings among black folks? did very well in key states. can he match that or can he even get -- nixon got about 17% of the black vote. was on the cover of jet magazine with sammy davis jr. i think that's the question. is there going to be a republican candidate who can match that and whether or not it's christie. >> and the question, does shaquille o'neal have the endorsement power of sammy davis jr.? >> the black vote does matter. we should also look to the cartoons from space jam with michael jordan. who do they endorse at the end of this thing? >> all right. there's that. >> i didn't think about that. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, howard dean on fixing the affordable care act website and in the rewrite, why daryl isa is not crazy enough for the tea party. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the days to take care of business. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. every day of the week. centurylink® your link to what's next. with my united mileageplus explorer card. i've saved $75 in checked bag fees. 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sometimes it helps to turn the computer off and then turn it back on. we don't know why, it just does. if our website still isn't loading properly, we're probably justover loaded with traffic. millions of americans are visiting health care.gov, which is great news but the site was only designed to handle six users at a time. >> joining me is the former governor of vermont, not a former democrat, but a former dnc chairman, dr. howard dean. i want to listen to what the governor of kentucky has to say about his successful start up in his state. let's listen to this. >> at 12:01 a.m., kentuckyians started swarming all over our exchange and our toll free lines and in about four weeks we have had over 300,000 kentuckyians trying to find out and finding out about affordable health care. things are not working on a federal level yet but it's going to. the advice i would give is take a deep breath. >> do you have the same optimism that it is going to work? >> i do eventually. i think the problems that the federal website is having is worse than the problems that the state websites are having in general and that's simply because of the size of the federal website. i think when obama care passed, nobody envisioned that 30 some odd republican governors would refuse medicaid. rsh let's listen to what jay karney had to say about this today. >> what everybody said all along is there will be changes brought about to create minimum standards. min numb services that everyone has to provide. there are existing health care plans that don't meet the minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the affordable care ak. >> he is talking about one of the controversial aspects of the law as it's working now which is republicans say that people are being kicked off of their health plans. in fact, what's going on is that the health plans are being brought up to standard, up to grade where they will provide a greater value. >> right. we went through this. we did a lot and have done a lot of obama care. we did it about 20 years ago. we have gone through this. there is resistance because people like what they have but the truth is a lot of what people have had in the individual market which was really a disaster before obama care was inferior stuff. i used to have patients that got sick and were kicked off of their health insurance. the company golden rule took 50% of every payment dollar away and put it in their pocket. most insurance companies spend 80% of their premium dollars. one of the things that the government is doing is bringing order to chaotic markets where all kinds of stuff gets sold that shouldn't. some of this is consumer protection. i'm in favor of that. >> there is this notion that these changes in the health care plan are something that only would happen because of the new law when in fact insurance companies are changing the internals of your own plan all the time. >> the politics for obama care is a legitimate policy which protects consumers they take a lot of money. the hearing of the rollout in aspects of medicare part d. >> we americans are in this where everything has to be instant. tea, coffee, everything that we do and we're supposed to go out there and have a new program, put it in place and all at once it's perfect. >> i thought the auto enrollment process would go well because we already had those people in the computers and that we would be able to shift them over. we have had 14,000 missourians for whom the auto enrollment process failed. >> those that stand here and suggest that the whole thing should be thrown out may have forgotten that it took us 20 years to get the whole thing passed in the first place. >> that was rick santorum getting the last word defending the problems in that rollout. >> interestingly enough, change is hard. it is very complicated. obama care is more complicated than medicare part d. they both worked out. medicare part d worked out very, very well on the enld. -- end. in the end, let's not forget the best example we have. we know this works. the reason we know this works is mitt romney did it five year ace go. 95.5% of all citizens in massachusetts have health insurance. i think barack obama gets some credit for that. >> governor howard dean, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, in the rewrite, why the tea party has decided that daryl isa is now a traitor. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know that when a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, it does make a sound? 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>> you know, it's a big win for them. it looks like we will. he is an incredibly weak candidate. but i mean, when you look at the clintons it's like the 1990s. it very much a positive for him. the question is what does he do in 2014? will they be in kentucky? will they be in north carolina? georgia? i think that's the real question. looks like bill clinton may already have his mind made up what what he should do, too. >> she got beat to her left last time by barack obama when she ran for president. is there any space left to her now? >> look, i mean, the spark for this conversation is that there is so little space for other competitors right now. there is still time. i would point that out. in terms of the actual issues i really do think it's going to be the core issues that she brought front and center. >> is there a left space to hillary clinton? >> it's hard to see who that would be. maybe you got the governor of california. maybe he would get out there and run hard. maybe martin o'mally. he didn't do too well at the dnc. he is not a figure of people -- it's hard to see how she moves over or somebody gets to the left of her. can she hold the obama coalition? but also peel off some of the blue collar white voters who clinton was so adept at getting. never one north carolina. certainly that would be on their list of want to win states should she win. but it's hard to see that somebody was going to get in this race. >> i also think in the number of shows that people are craving moderation. there's a real opening for someone like hillary clinton who has a fairly mainstream body of corporations. >> she's got an article saying it has to be a different team this time than the team she used in the last presidential campaign. >> that's right. a lot of fighting from that team. they sort of frittered away a lot of money in iowa. i still think the big hurdle that hillary clinton is going to have to pass is that she is from the 90s. sure she is a contemporary now. but presidential contests are always about the future. and that's why you get somebody in there like chris christie. he is going to be able to say he's something new and fresh, who wants to go back to the 90s. it's the same race that barack obama ran against hillary clinton in 2008. >> having worked with her, that is not on my list of worries. if she decides to run, she is somebody who is so vibrant about jumping on the new generation of issues and technology and communicating. i think increasingly she has shown herself to be amenable to that. >> i think she is -- >> i do. it's got to be -- >> i think the fact that you have to make the argument that she is on twitter and on new technology, i think that's a problem. >> her policy is that she championed as the secretary of state.
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general and that's simply because of the size of the federal website. i think when obama care passed, nobody envisioned that 30 some odd republican governors would refuse medicaid. rsh let's listen to what jay karney had to say about this today. >> what everybody said all along is there will be changes brought about to create minimum standards. min numb services that everyone has to provide. there are existing health care plans that don't meet the minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the affordable care ak. >> he is talking about one of the controversial aspects of the law as it's working now which is republicans say that people are being kicked off of their health plans. in fact, what's going on is that the health plans are being brought up to standard, up to grade where they will provide a greater value. >> right. we went through this. we did a lot and have done a lot of obama care. we did it about 20 years ago. we have gone through this. there is resistance because people like what they have but the truth is a lot of what people have had in the individual market whic
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>> thanks for joining us here at 5:00. we hope to see you at 6:00. >> good night. >>> on our broadcast tonight, damage control. growing outrage now along with new allegations of spying on some of our closest friends around the world with many now asking how much the president knew. >>> struck down. one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country and there was a major ruling late today. >>> taking a hit. a stunner from consumer reports. some of the most popular cars on a the the road are no longer recommended. >>> and the babies born in the middle of a natural disaster now thriving as their first birthdays arrive. "nightly news" begins now. >>> good evening. among industrialized nations, spying is considered something everybody does but nobody likes to talk about. the problem for the u.s. right now is everybody is talking about it and each day seems to bring a new allegation concerning the extent to which the u.s. has spied on other nations, especially our allies and friends. it's all coming from one man, edward snowden and the secrets he made off before he left as a u.s. intelligence analyst. now the white house is scrambling to soothe feelings while fielding questions about how much the president knew. we begin in washington tonight with nbc's andrea mitchell. andrea, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. the white house is under fire from its closest allies. for the first time the president is promising to limit the nsa's extraordinary reach saying what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. that likely means not spying on foreign leaders who happen to be good friends and allies. across europe, an uproar today. the u.s. ambassador to spain under siege. called on the carpet to explain reports that the nsa was vacuuming up telephone data, tracking 60 million calls in spain in less than a month according to el mundo. germany today called for an investigation into nsa's tapping of angela merkel's personal cell phone. the interior minister said the chancellor was spied on which violates german law. he threatened to expel any u.s. diplomats involved. european parliament members from germany and spain descended on washington demanding answers from congressional intelligence committees and threatening sanctions. >> it is not acceptable for example that espionage on chancellor merkel and others. >> we are asking ourselves if now the u.s. or nsa is considering merkel a terrorist. >> reporter: the president didn't know merkel's phone was targeted. is that possible? the diplomatic disaster based on leaks from edward snowden. i asked his intermediary journalist glen greenwald speaking to us from rio. is it credible he would not know? >> unfortunately it is credible. because the nsa has become this rogue agency that really goes off on its own and does whatever it wants. i'm not sure which is scarier, that the president did know and approved it and is now lying about it or that he didn't know and the nsa took it upon itself to do that without the commander in chief being aware. >> reporter: does everyone do it? experts say china and russia are notorious for spying. so are close allies like france mostly for industrial espionage and israel for cyber war. but experts say no other spy agencies come close to the nsa's vast data collection. despite the risks, president obama is the first u.s. president to use a blackberry, overruling objections from the c irgs a and nsa. >> knowing other countries would be interested in listening to his phone calls. he ended up with one of the most secure blackberrys on earth. >> reporter: and he won't give it up. >> is the president still using his blackberry? >> i have no change to announce in terms of the president's communications. >> reporter: he loves that blackberry. tonight diane finestein ordered a total review of all intelligence programs. the most sweeping since after 9/11 saying she opposes spying on allied leaders and was also kept in the dark about merkel. brian? >> andrea mitchell starting us off from our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> you may remember that one-woman filibuster in the texas state house a few months back. it was about legislation that became one of the strictest abortion laws in the country. tonight a federal judge put it on hold. our justice correspondent pete williams in our washington bureau tonight with the latest on this abortion issue in texas. pete, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening. this law was to take effect tomorrow and it would have forced about a third of the three dozen abortion clinics in texas to shut down. despite that dramatic filibuster of state senator wendy davis when the law was being considered, the state legislature passed it in july. it required any doctor performing abortions to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles of the clinic to provide better care in emergencies, the law's sponsor said. but today a federal judge in austin said that provision places an undue burden on a woman seeking a legal abortion. and he said it adds no medical value. the judge also narrowed another part of the law that limited the use of a two-pill system for medical or nonsurgical abortions. the state is certain to the appeal. brian? >> pete williams on the texas situation from washington tonight. pete, thanks. >>> penn state university has agreed to pay out nearly $60 million to 26 different victims in that child sexual abuse scandal involving the former assistant football coach jerry sandusky who is, by the way, spending the rest of his life in prison. the settlement is on top of tens of millions already spent by the university on fines, legal bills and other costs in the scandal that badly tarnished the reputation of penn state football and the late and legendary coach joe paterno. >>> the website for the president's new health care law is back up tonight after yet another technical problem over the weekend that prevented people from signing up for health insurance yet again. for many middle class americans who buy their own health insurance, there could be another frustration and that is sticker shock after some learned they must buy new policies that cover more, but cost more as well. nbc's peter alexander at the white house for us tonight. peter, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening. after weeks of questions about whether the obama care website could be fixed and when many say that is masking what is the real issue here. how much these plans will actually cost. it was one of president obama's key selling points for the new health care law. >> if you've got health insurance, it doesn't mean a government takeover. you keep your own insurance. keep your own doctor. if you like your plan you can keep your plan. >> reporter: but in los angeles, that isn't what debra cavalaro is finding. she buys her own insurance. her employer sent her this notice reading because of the requirements of the new laws we can no longer offer your current policy. >> all i want is what i currently have. i want to keep my doctors and i would like to have lower premiums. >> reporter: the insurance company is offering her is new plan that would cost her $484 a month versus her current $293 premium, a 65% increase. why so much more? the affordable care act requires all plans include ten essential health benefits from maternity care to pediatric services. the administration points out many people will get subsidies to help offset higher costs. and most traditional employer-based and government plans that roughly 80% of americans rely on will not be affected. the fact millions will lose or will have to change their individual policies is not a surprise to the administration. nbc news senior investigative correspondent lisa myers found buried in the 2010 obama care regulations language regulations language "wall street journal" predicting a reasonable range for the number of individual policies would terminate is 40% to 67%. health policy experts say the new rules make it difficult to carry over an old plan with less comprehensive coverage. >> the problem with obama care and where we are at now is the obama administration has decided to implement this in a really rigid way. >> reporter: white house officials insist they have always said insurance policies could change to offer more benefits and to emphasize the affordability. tonight the administration says nearly half of all uninsured single young adults could get health coverage for $50 a month or less. >> peter alexander at the white house for us. peter, thanks. >>> overseas, a dramatic day and a symbolic place. tiananmen square in beijing. at least five are dead and 38 injured after a fiery car crash. whether it was an accident or something else is in question. whatever it was, authorities did not want our cameras rolling on it as we hear tonight from nbc's ian williams who was there. >> reporter: it happened in the most sensitive place in china, beijing's tiananmen square. the burning car came to a stop right under the iconic portrait of mao zedong. it plowed through a barricade and into a crowd of tourists. we arrived soon after. the police locked down the area. they have cleared tiananmen scare. they have closed the subway. they are extremely jittery. security is always tight at the square. notorious as the scene of the 1989 pro democracy protests and bloody government crackdown. when we tried to film the aftermath of the crash, police and plain clothes security officials quickly surrounded us. and tried to stop us from shooting. we had seen them stop a passing bus and haul off two men they spotted taking pictures from the window. we were taken from the square, detained for half an hour as they photographed us and checked our ids before letting us go. officials worked to erase all signs of the crash. social media is alive with speculation that the crash was deliberate, some sort of protest. so far no information about who was in the car and no clue about a possible motive. ian williams, nbc news, beijing. >>> staying overseas for a moment, the death toll rising in europe tonight. at least 13 dead after one of the biggest storms to hit in years tearing across the uk into germany. hurricane-force winds knocking down trees. they have left hundreds of thousands without power. flood warnings are posted into the night. folks in the northeast will not soon forget the halloween nor'easter of 2011 which crippled a huge area when snow fell on trees still full of autumn leaves. while there is nothing that bad in the forecast, a sizable halloween storm is on the move nonetheless which for midweek will stretch from texas to maine with rain and high winds. thankfully temperatures too warm to produce snow. >>> lou reed died this weekend. he survived a liver transplant that extended his life. but the end came at home in long island when doctors determined there was nothing more they could do. his fans spent yesterday and today reacting to the news and comparing notes on the impact one man had on all of modern music. ♪ >> reporter: he might have been the largest single influence on the largest number of musicians in over a generation. lou reed ignored the old guard and defined avant-garde. he was a true rebel, poet, militant, contrarian. his music wasn't for everybody, but it ended up affecting what everyone heard. >> i had these great novelist ambitions about it. i really wanted to make it a rock and roll songs about things that really mattered. >> reporter: born in brooklyn and raised on long island he was a dark troubled kid treated with electroshock therapy. after graduating from syracuse, his early career was rough. ♪ >> reporter: he wrote about subjects people didn't talk about at the time. it was a signal to the new york music under ground that it was safe to come out. >> he knew he was a rock and roll singer. he loved the form. he wrote lyrics that reflected that that were primal, that were simple, but were also beautiful. >> reporter: he could be wildly experimental. he once made a double album of just guitar reverb which he himself admitted he couldn't listen to all the way through. ♪ >> reporter: for all of his influence, he only had one big commercial hit, "walk on the wild side," about the people around his friend and patron andy warhol. andy warhol. it is about sex, gender, drug and hustlers. he put them all in a strange place where the colored girls sing. ♪ doo, doo, doo, doo >> what is it that people like? i always ask people. what is it? i decided it's the doo, doo, doos. >> reporter: he was revolutionary and his group the velvet underground helped inspire the velvet revolution against come in addition when a young man named vaclav havel brought a lou reed record back with him from new york and went on to lead a nation. lou reed dead at the age of 71. >>> still ahead for us on a monday night, big news about some of the most popular vehicles on the road. something of a shocker from the folks at consumer reports. >>> and later, the big celebration for babies born during a wild week for a lot of new moms and dads in this part of the world. >>> we are back with big news in the world of cars, specifically reliability and the magazine so many car buyers consult "consumer reports" has a big setback to the longtime worth of the toyota camry. it wasn't the only brand anymore getting bad news. our report tonight from nbc's tom costello. >> reporter: year after year the toyota camry is among the best-selling cars in america. today, a stunning announcement from "consumer reports." it's no longer recommending the camry because of how it performed in this test. the new overlap crash test from the insurance institute for highway safety which simulates a car clipping another car or a solid object. the camry, rav-4, prius b and audi a-4 received poor ratings. now consumer reports is dropping its recommendation for all four. >> comes to crash performance, reliability. there are a lot of vehicles, a lot of grease choices out there. we think we should just recommend the vehicles that are the best. >> reporter: audi is already working on a fix. toyota tells nbc news their cars meet all federal requirements and we are looking at a range of resolutions to achieve greater crash performance in this area. the new rankings are about reliability. japanese brands take seven of the top ten spots. but of 31 ford models, only one, the f-150 pickup truck, scored above average. the biggest complaint is with electronics. the navigation, audio, communications, freezing up, failing to connect or work. surprisingly two-thirds of the ford and ford-owned lincoln models tested got scores that were much worse than average. in a statement ford said it is committed to delivering the best quality with every new vehicle. we have improved the quality of advanced connectivity technologies by 50% since launch. >> this is a big problem for ford because their reputation has improved over the last five years because they have improved their dependability and quality. this survey raises red flags with potential buyers. >> reporter: the consumer reports conclusion, electronics can also be an achilles heel. tom costello, nbc news, washington. >>> we're back in a moment with the big reunion today a half a century in the making. >>> there were two separate unveilings today we wanted to share with you today starting with the u.s. military working dog team's national monument. first of its kind opened today in san antonio honoring our vital and faithful four-legged warriors. >>> at the national portrait gallery in washington a new painting called "the four justices." at almost 8 by 10 feet, it's a huge depiction of the first four female justices in u.s. history. sotomayor, kagan, o'connor, and ginsberg. now to a photo taken by ringo in new jersey when the beatles visited in '64. a week ago ringo asked for help in finding the young beatles fans. our friends at the "today" show not only found the surviving former kids, got them together on the plaza this morning, they recreated the photo. they have arranged for them all to attend an upcoming ringo starr concert in las vegas. how about that? >>> this weekend in las vegas, a 64-year-old man named john force did something extraordinary. this is what he does for a living. it takes only four seconds to show it to you. that's drag racing. 4.062 seconds, 310 miles an hour. that was john force winning the nhra title for the 16th time. the driver he beat in the next lane was his daughter courtney. he says he'd like to celebrate turni turning 56 next year with a 17th nhra title. >>> and let's hear it for the world series and strange game endings. saturday night's game ended with an ump's call at the base path to home was obstructed by a pair of legs. last night it ended when the pinch runner's legs couldn't get him back to first in time. all of it led "snl"'sset myers to speculate on twitter that tonight's game will end with a falcon catching the ball in its beak and dropping it over the fence for a walk-off home run. boston and st. louis are tied two games a piece. >>> when we come bab we'll take you back to what was just starting to happen a year ago tonight. the new arrivals were on their way 37 >>> parts of ellis island re-opened just today on the eve of the first anniversary of the arrival of hurricane sandy. the former gateway to the nation sustained heavy damage in the storm. the storm was a traumatic event for so many people during a full moon, remember. you can probably guess the rest. for the women who went into labor this week a year ago, it was a huge challenge, a lasting memory. and tonight nbc's rehema ellis checks in on them. >> look at you! >> reporter: it's hard to imagine this was nearly a year ago. >> hey, sweetheart. >> reporter: julia was in labor at nyu medical center during the height of hurricane sandy when the hospital found itself in critical condition. flooded with 14 feet of water and without power or a working generator, the hospital was forced to evacuate more than 300 patients. >> we prioritized the patients one by one, put them on a sled and went down the stairs, one staircase at a time. >> reporter: julia and her husband were among those rushed to other facilities. >> i was holding a cell phone above her while they were putting in the iv and epidural. >> reporter: mika was later born at mount sinai. when sandy came ashore in new jersey, marie and mike celebrated the arrival of their son brendan. >> hospital lost power. they were on emergency generators. >> reporter: in the dark at the hospital and unaware their home had been destroyed. >> they had everything ready for us to come home. >> reporter: just last week for the first time, brendan saw the house that was supposed to be his home. he and mika are just two of the babies born a year ago. after a stormy start now celebrating their first birthdays. how are the children doing now? >> they're great. they're amazing. beginning to walk, standing. how lucky we all are that we have these beautiful babies that they are all healthy and joyous. >> reporter: frieda took her first steps. alice loves the camera. stone's mother says he's full of adventure. this story has a happy ending. >> yes. it's a beautiful ending. >> reporter: and for these families, a beginning as well. rehema ellis, nbc news, new york. >> how about that? >>> that's our broadcast on a monday night as we start off a new week. thank you for being here with us. i'm brian williams. we hope to see you right back here tomorrow evening. good night. >>> thanks for joining us. i'm janelle wang. >> i'm raj matthai. >> it's one of the most charming communities in the bay area. it's been plagued by home burglaries. a recent victim is urging his neighbors to be an guard. staffing issues prevented san jose police from responding to most burglary calls. nbc bay area's damian trujillo joins us in willow glen with the story. this is a notable community. what's the plan? >> reporter: they're not going to take this sitting down they tell me. the contract working on this home behind me put up the warning sign over there. the home was not tarped at the time so neighbors believe the thieves thought there were expensive tools inside. tonight those neighbors tell me they feel they have to night this crime themselves. not even the no trespassing signs or scare crow next door were enough to stave off the willow street burglar. >> she's painstakingly put the house back together in its era, room by room. they broke in the back door with a crowbar. they could have broken the glass and gone in, but no, they destroyed the door. >> reporter: the thieves made off with a few tools, and it was enough for the contractor to warn the neighbors. >> i like it. >> i like it. it should be done so everybody knows to watch out for it. be on the alert. >> reporter: it seems everyone in willow glen has a story or two about being victims of theft. >> i put the alarm system right after the bicycle was stolen from my yard. >> the guy just walked out. like he was
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so much kathrine. white house president secretary jay carney is being grilled again about obama care and new reports that the president knew that millions of people would lose their health insurance as early as 2010. >> the president said and what everybody said all along is that there would be changes brought out to create minimum standards so that an individual shopping for insurance, when he or she purchases that insurance knows that the policy that you buy doesn't have a life time limit. that there are out of pocket expenses capped at a maximum limit. >> michael emanuel live for us on the hill. i'm not sure that i would want to be jay carney. >> it is a tough job. all eyes are on jay carney as he faces tough questions in what is now being delivered. we heard many times president obama say if you like your current health insurance you will be able to keep it. we are finding out that millions of americans will be receiving letters canceling their current policies. the case the administration is making that is those policies that are being cancelled don't meet the affordable care act or
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apparently without the president's knowledge. and then there is obama care, the website in disarray and the other legacy program, immigration reform, now stalled in partisan politics. this was probably not the day president obama would have chosen to speak one-on-one with abc's new partner, fusion. >> good to see ya. >> good to see you, mr. president. >> congratulations on the new venture. >> but speak he did, taking questions on this difficult day. >> people wonder how is it you didn't know about the cell phones being looked at or listened to and why you didn't know and who should have told you? >> i'm not confirming a bunch of assumptions that have been made in the press. but what i have said is that the national security operations general generally, i'm making good decisions and i'm the final user of all of the intelligence they gather. >> such as monitoring the personal cell phone of the german chancellor. >> and the president of the united states of america. >> the one who invited him to speak at the berlin wall just four months ago where he promised american intelligence was not
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"hardball" starts right now. >>> is ted cruz a republican freddy krueger? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with this grotesquery that now presents itself as the righteous right side of the party. the freddy krueger that threatens with credit defaults. we now have work this week on halloween on what the voter's reaction is to this specter. two-thirds of the voters of virginia which is voting next week say they hold a stark, negative view of the republican party nationally. worse yet, the same two-thirds say they are voting for the democratic candidate for governor next week because they can't stand for the brand of the guy running against him. his name is republican. all have such a dread of the grand old party today that now think of it to be feared. eugene robinson and joan walsh. both are msnbc political analysts. well a political storm is brewing in virginia. that could tell us which way the country is headed now. for nearly 40 years covering the last nine elections, the party occupying the white house has lost the following race. this shows that streak may be about to end. terry mcauliffe leads ken cuccinelli by 12 points. his largest margin in the poll yet. and when mcauliffe supporters asked what motivates their vote, as i said, nearly two-thirds, 64%, say it's the chance to vote against the republican cuccinelli. by just not being the extreme right winger, the democrat gets the bulk of the votes. this matches, by the way, almost the 65% of virginia voters who have now said they have an unfavorable opinion of the republican party nationally suggesting the force driving this election of virginia next tuesday is the negative voter feeling about the republican party nationally. gene, this is stark stuff. i know we live in washington. i know virginia's to our south across the potomac. but this is the canary in the mine that just died for the republican party. >> well, i think it did. if you look at virginia, it's a purple state. it was red, it's become more blue. it's gone for obama a couple of times. but it's very close. it's a changing state. growing hispanic population. it's like the country in some sense. >> the numbers are almost exactly the same as the numbers nationally. >> exactly. and you can see cuccinelli is getting killed in the polls. in large part it's because he's very far to the right. he's also tied to governor bob macdonald who has had had ethics problems. and the government shutdown. the republican identification with the government shutdown, i think, was a huge factor in this race. and will be a huge factor on election day. >> i always see interesting coincidents. coincidental facts. a third that say they don't like the republican party nationally say they're voting against cuccinelli in the other race. two-thirds saying i don't like republicans, i'm not voting for a republican. that's pretty stark evidence of what's to come. this may be the first primary for 2014 if you look at it that way. >> i think it really is. there's another since you guys love numbers, there's another number that jumped out at me though. three times as many people in virginia strong opponents of the tea party as are strong supporters of the tea party. and both groups are equally likely to vote. that never happens. we think of the tea party people as being the people who are motivated. they're the one who is always turn out. and cuccinelli has banked had his campaign on saying this is a weird off-year election. if i can get my base out, i'm going to be fine. but it turns out this same process of turning against republicans is turning people against the tea parties. >> you're so smart. this is the old karl rove theory that no matter how much the middle worried about you, you can get the nasties out. right on that point, virginia matters because its election results are as you've been saying is nearly identical matchup to the national numbers as we were just mentioning. catch this number. i don't care if you like numbers or not. you'll like this one. in the 2012 presidential election obama got 51.1% of the vote. mitt romney got 47.2%. in virginia the president got 51.2% and romney got 47.3%. reached a new high in today's washington post poll with 53% of virginians openly opposing the tea party. well a year ago 41% supported the tea party. and only two years ago more virginians supported the tea party. 45-43. while the republican brand has taken a beating nationally, the tea leaves of virginia -- i know that was funny. it was mine. the sub brand, the tea party is taking a beating as well. gene, it seems to me that you can't generalize too much. obviously there are a lot of federal employees. >> exactly. >> but those of us who think of virginia as the old virginia. the old state of -- you know, it's the bird family and all that stuff and the massive resistance. it's not that state anymore. >> that doesn't sum up the state anymore, no. there's still some very, very conservative people in virginia, but there's lots of newcomers and lots of immigrants. >> like the next governor. >> huge -- >> like the next governor. >> exactly. like the next governor. immigrant carpet bagger, whatever you want to call him. >> george allen wasn't from virginia. look. allen wasn't from virginia. robb wasn't from virginia. >> one factor in this race, though, and certainly in the tea party numbers was the shutdown because of the heavy federal government presence here in northern virginia. the tea party's hostility toward government employees and government spending in general. including defense spending which partly explains i think why with cuccinelli is getting beat down in newport news. >> these numbers are stirring. look at this. among the voters down there, republicans have once again fielded a candidate who women generally flee from in droves. if women flee in droves. even in the case of rape and incest which for some people is an exception is losing to terry mcauliffe among women. this is like the new york mayor's race. 24-point difference. among basically even among men tied. so the issues that grab our attention and women in the media and outside the media didn't seem to move the men. maybe they're gun oriented or something. they're still with cuccinelli. but a 24-point spread for women. what do you make of that? >> i would give terry mcauliffe some credit there. he has not been afraid to run on the social issues in virginia. >> no, he isn't. >> he and his people saw that there was this gender gap and it could be widened. cuccinelli also supports a personhood bill which makes contraception illegal. he has gone to go against the anti-sodomy wall. so he's run a campaign that is innovative for virginia seeing that these social issues were going to move the needle. they've moved the needle quite a lot. >> are you sure about that, joan? talking about the iud. what method of birth control would be effected by this? >> it could be the iud. it's anything that stops implantation. it depends on the wording of the law. so some supporters of it wiggle out by saying we never got far enough, necessarily to get the law passed. we might have negotiated that out. they even put at risk some oral forms of contraception. >> wall street has reached its highest level today. the dow jones gained 111 points and closed at a new high in history. in history, the s&p closed at a record high as well. he kills our enemies and he makes us rich. so why are you bitching? what is the problem with the right? why don't they ever -- even in their own self-negative money interests, kwbt they aleast say i'll say this about this customer, at least he makes us rich. and he kills our enemies. if w did that, they'd make him the next saint. >> that's been the pattern with democratic presidents. they're hated. >> last question to you, joan. can't he make them happy even by making them rich and killing our enemies? what does he have to do, this guy? >> apparently not. apparently not. they are so bought into thinking that he is, you know, a demon and thinking that their voters want to hear that. some of them do. some of them don't. many voters, most voters recognize that this man has done what he can do for the economy and that he's been dealt a tough hand. >> let me try it another way. he left us with the clown car. left us with the worst financial disaster since the great depression. he left us sitting on his lap when they left. aft they've failed on both counts and then this guy comes in and succeeds glowingly on both counts taking down al qaeda from the top on television, okay? and he takes -- he doubles the dow back from the duoldrums it was in under w. and not a wimper of well, i'll give him that. i don't like him, but i'll give him that. just a little grumble of, yeah, i like that. nothing. >> no. no. a lot of them hate him and they see political gain in trashing him. and they can't give him any credit whatsoever. and, yes, some of it does have to do with his race, sorry to say. >> some basic human reaction. i'm accused of saying -- i want to say when i'm exactly sure. but sometimes you got to wonder what don't they really, really like about him. thank you for the chuckle and the thoughts of course. and for the point of view and thoughts. very connected, actually. >>> by the way, election day is this coming tuesday. polls in virginia are going to close at 7:00 eastern. and "hardball," luckily we get to do it. we'll be first with the results. the exit polling. we'll tell you how the canary did before he died in terms of the right wing. that's next tuesday at 7:00 eastern. >>> by the way, coming up, it's one thing for the right wing to take shots. now the national review is. i don't think they meant it as a compliment. >>> also republicans crying crocodile tears over the problems with the rollout of president obama's health care plan. they're pretending all they want to do is fix it. can you believe that? they just want to fix it. >> we've gone through 44 votes, 48 votes now, of you trying to dismantling the legislation. you call that cooperation? i don't. >> i like that guy out of his chair. >>> plus it's been a year since hurricane sandy hit the northeast and aid still isn't getting to many of those who desperately need it. >>> and let me finish tonight with the voters' want for politicians to work together. this is "hardball," the place for politics. the end. lovely read susan. but isn't it time to turn the page on your cup of joe? gevalia, or a cup of johan, is like losing yourself in a great book. may i read something? yes, please. of course. a rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. net weight 340 grams. 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let's go back to the model of '06, '08, and '12. you guys pushing for a standard on obama care, that's risky. no, no, no, no. just keep your head down and we'll win races. that's not how you win races. that's based on the oh, so clever idea that if your opponent is here on the spectrum, that you have to be infinitesimally to their right so that you can capture every marginal voter right up to where they are. the problem is if you do that you destroy every single reason anyone has to show up and vote. >> so which visual will win out in the republican party? ed rendell and michael steele. governor rendell, sometimes when i watch that guy, they turn off the sound if that's possible. i see a e van g-- evangelicalis with the hands and the religious intonation and gesture. is he apocalyptic? is this something years from now we can decide or something right now something really apocalyptic. we either go the right way which is godly or we're going the wrong way which is ungodly. i mean, is this about budget deficits? is this about something you put your fingers on like mathemat s mathematics? or something else he's talking about here? i think he's talking apocalyptics. i see it. your thoughts. >> i do too. and, you know, it's working for him. people say, well, this strategy was a failure. sure, it was a failure. it was a failure for republicans nationally. it was a failure for republicans in the congress. but was it a failure for ted cruz? he's got bigger fund raising lists as a result of what he did. he's got converts that will go to the wall for him in iowa and states like that. was it a failure from his perspective? maybe not. >> so it's all about -- governor, is it all about getting the right wing rail, get that rail position hardest right you can get and make sure rand paul or nobody else gets there. as long as you hold to that position, hardest right candidate, you're going to get a huge chunk of votes. is that the thinking? >> absolutely. i think ted cruz is motivated totally selfishly in this. he's not think of the country. he's not thinking of his party. he's thinking of himself. but it may be a strategy that works with republican primary voters. remember, primary voters are a small slice of the overall republican electorate. it may not work with the electorate at large, but it could work with the primary voters. >> i want you to respond to that. there was a guy called george mcgovern. he made sure nobody got to his left. nobody get to my left or right, i win. >> i win. and that's cruz's stance here. no one getting to his right as he sets up the republican primary march which he's spent four times in iowa. >> and the right wing guy wins. >> right. >> by the way, he's going to south carolina. >> exactly. well, there you are. and i think it's important to know that he mentioned going back to the -- you know, 2006, 2008, and 2012. he skipped 2010 and 2009. and it's something about what we did when i was at the rnc in that period -- >> when you won. >> when we won. i didn't have to go hard extreme. i had to be common sense. i had to bring people to the party because, remember, we were a party out of power in disfavor with the american people. we had to rebuild that -- >> i get it! you would be today a guy who didn't shut down the government who didn't threaten default but waited to see how this obama rollout occurred and then run against that. >> yeah. >> you would have done that. but they don't do that now. >> they don't do that now. >> i like to advance you. >> i appreciate it. >> let me go to senate majority leader mcconnell is being challenged next year. in a new web video he goes the other way. he pitched a leader in washington who can negotiate and get things done. he's going for the other position. not exactly a message that will endear him to tea party types. he is accepting the roll of leadership playing his strengths. not this rabble-rouser out there. let's watch. ♪ >> minority leader mitch mcconnell helped pave the way for this. >> mcconnell is a terrific leader. there's nobody who's been better than mcconnell. he's good, he's tough, he's smart. he knows what he's doing. >> mitch mcconnell who in the end is the person who more than anyone else got this deal to the finish line. >> mitch mcconnell. >> senator mcconnell was the adult here. what would have happened here if he hadn't been there? >> it's amazing, governor, how the republican party's swing to the right is so stark that lou dobbs is now on the more liberal side of this swing. this lou dobbs who you cite now as your establishment support beam. your thoughts. i thought it was a good ad because it played to his strengths. your thoughts. >> absolutely. it's a good ad because he can't run away from the fact he's been in washington for years. don't compromise that. go with it and go with your strength. you're a strong leader and you deliver for kentucky. you remember in '94 which was a republican wave year, ted kennedy survived. in the end, he said, look, i bring things to massachusetts that nobody else can do. and people said, you know, he's right. why would we want to lose him? and in kentucky, the message is going to be twofold. one, mitch mcconnell is a good national leader. but two, he delivers for kentucky. >> let's look at an example, here's ohio governor john kas h kasich. had strong words on the subject of a strong social safety yet. can you believe it? he told "the new york times" i'm concerned about the fact that there seems to be a war on the poor. that if you're poor, somehow you're shiftless and lazy. "the times" pointed out that kasich has expanded medicaid in his state, given resources to the mentally ill, and backed the mayor who raised taxes to improve schools. michael? >> i think the governor is dead on. and i'm very happy and rather proud to hear him put that out on the table. i think the party should talk more about the poor in the context of our policies and the things that we believe will help lift the poor. you know, i ask the questions when i give speeches, how many got up today and said all i want to be is poor. and no one raises their hands. the poor doesn't get up thinking that. i think our party is uniquely poised to do that. and i think the leadership of guys like kasich and others will help frame that argument into the future. if given the opportunity. and they have that sister soldier moment when they say to the rank and file, this is the way forward. not over there in the woods and in the trees, but this way talking about poor and opportunity and all that. >> looks to me like the crazy right is now fighting the reasonable right. as well as the left. >> yeah. >> anyway, thank you michael steele. thank you governor ed rendell. >>> up next, the hit tv show "homeland" now for the pre-school set. this is "hardball," the place for politics. i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. it's not the "juggle a bunch of rotating categories" card. it's not the "sign up for rewards each quarter" card. it's the no-games, no-messing-'round, no-earning-limit-having, do-i-look-like-i'm-joking, turbo-boosting, heavyweight-champion- of-the-world cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere, every damn day. now, tell me, what's in your wallet? overmany discounts to thine customers! 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we went back to our districts and we told our seniors although we voted no, we personally believe and will work with the bush administration to make it work. that's what we did. and how many of you stood up to do that? none. zero. zero. >> there are numerous proposals including the one that i'm a co-sponsor. >> i yield back. i take back the time, sir. let me take the time back. are you serious, what you just said? are you really serious? we've gone to 44 votes, 48 votes now, of you trying to dismantle the legislation. you call that cooperation? i don't. >> congressman bill pascrell joins us right now along with sam stein of "the huffington post." you're like the guy i grew up with. maybe slightly older on slightly younger, but you're just like me father's friends. you speak regular glienglish. you talk the talk. 40 times they voted against the bill the president had and there's not a single republican for 150,000 years that's had a health care plan. there's 40 million people sitting right now in the e.r. then this griffin character from arkansas, you know where he stands. for nothing. i'm so glad you called him out. i'm sure he came up to you afterwards and said how can you be so direct with me. anyway, tell me what the reaction was to being direct for once with these people. >> some folks were surprised, chris, that i yielded my time. we only had three minutes. but you know what? i like that. i knew where it was going. he had his sheet of paper in his hands. where the hell was this one year ago, two years ago. he just signed onto that bill three days ago. this is hypocrisy at its worst. i wish i had more than three minutes, but i'm going to defend what i think should be defended. you know, chris, we taked way back when three years ago there were things in this i didn't like and some things that should have been in that weren't. but we're done. here we are. it's all over again. it's like repetition, repetition. i say help us make it better. >> you know, they remind me, sam, of ben brantley, the theater critic at "the new york times." he doesn't have a play to put on. he doesn't put anything out there for the public to look at. he just sits around and comes in on monday morning and trashes something. how can republicans get away with not being for anything at all for the working uninsured? and then they come off and they dance around, prance around suggesting little nuances of concern they've had. what a joke. your thoughts. >> let's stipulate for the time being that the rollout of the website has been pretty bad. but if you ask a republican if they want it to be resolved quicker, they say no. they're cheering on the failure. same with the exchanges. the republican governors did not take on the responsibility of building a state-run exchange putting the burden on the federal government. that doesn't excuse the federal government for botching the rollout. they should have done this. dave camp's right. they had three years to do this. but there's hypocrisy from the republicans that actively work to undermine this thing and are cheering the failure. >> let me get back to the congressman. what you think do that people on the other side of your committee would like to see as the end of this talk? do they want a better bill? do they have to refirm it? what do they want to do? >> chris, maybe i'm being naive about this, but i think there's still a good 25% to 40% on the ways and means committee that want to see some kind of a breakthrough where they don't feel that they're being tied down if they say something nice about the aca. and i asked today in the very spot that you just showed, i stood and said which one of you are going to tell the parents when you condemn this thing and then destroy it that your kids are no longer going to be covered with special needs. your kids are no longer going to be covered because they have a pre-condition. are you going to tell the parents? do you have the courage and the guts to do that? you going to tell the seniors that they're no longer going to get a shot with that famous hole in the doughnut when you're paying premiums but you're not getting benefits? are you going to tell seniors you're going back to the old way? none of you have the courage to do that. and until you do, things are not going to change around here. but what else do you need to know that we're not going away? >> let me go back to sam on the analysis here. it seems the congressman made a good point there. that the democrats didn't dance all over the grave of the prescription drug program. they nursed it along even though it was w's plan. is that a fair statement by the congressman? >> yeah, no. it's absolutely true. if you look at history, that's what happened. i think at some point, some republicans may recognize that president obama is going to be in office through the 2016 elections into 2017 and that there's no way he will sign legislation that repeals his law or that cripples it until it's inoperable. there is two to three more years here where they have to recognize that they have an opportunity to work within the confine os. o for they continue to do what they're doing. and i should recommend to the congressman, they should have called this heritage care. not obama care. maybe they would have been more reasonable in working with you on that then. >> that's very interesting and very important point. >> take a look at this, congressman. speaker john boehner brought the economy to the brink by taking us to the edge of a default. yet today he told reporters that the gop's fight against the aca, the affordable care act, is really about growing the economy. that's his concern. let's take a listen. >> obama care is like a wet blanket over our economy. american people are looking for more jobs, better wages. but with all the uncertainty around this law, employers are having a very difficult time making decisions. it's time to delay this. it's time to fix this before it gets any worse. >> you know, congressman, hold your ears, but i said a comment -- i used a comment i don't usually use. what do these guys want obama to do? he's talking about a wet blanket. this guy is killing our enemies the way w couldn't with his rooting tooting gi joe talk. this president caught him and killed him. he also doubled the stock market to the point where today the dow jones for the people with some money in their 401(k)s now are going to benefit from. and cut the deficit. >> in half. >> when are these guys going to stop complaining and stay you know what, i'll give him that. just once a year say -- what is it about your colleagues on the right that don't b ever want to give an inch and say he's not a bad guy. he's a good husband. he's a good father. just once in awhile throw him a bone. they don't do that. what do you think of this? >> it doesn't help america, chris. it does not help america whatsoever. from the guy who led the troops into shutting down the government which cost us billions and billions of dollars in jobs, just the little while ago, chris, and he's telling us about obama care? we've extended medicare because of the affordable care act. so just that in itself is something that we should all be proud of, both sides, all sides in this issue. >> let me jump in there -- >> will rogers is standing right behind you, congressman. the great american will rogers from oklahoma. he would appreciate the republicans' complete here. last word to you. >> i think he did delay the businessman date in the affordable care act which was a recognition that businesses were uncertain about this. but if the problem here is uncertainty caused by obama care, i don't think john boehner has a leg to stand on because as the congressman rightly said, it wasn't that long ago we were at the brink of a debt default and in the midst of a government shutdown because of efforts to delay and defund obama care. uncertainty is not something republicans appear to worry about all that seriously. >> there's a difference between a guy that stops to fix a tire and the guy that runs the car off the road. thank you, bill pascrell. >> thank you. honored to be here. >> and sam stein, thank you for being here. >>> up next, one year after hurricane sandy, aid isn't reaching the people that need it most yet. peter king, an expert on this subject, joins us. and "hardball's" new digital home is here. check out our page where you can connect with the community and watch full shows. just go to msnbc.com/hardball. mt comes to doing what you love, more is better. that's why we designed the all-new nissan versa note, with more technology, to get you into, and out of, tight spots. and more space so that you always have your favorite stuff. and, just for good measure, an incredibly efficient 40 mpg highway. so that when you're doing more, you're spending less. the all-new nissan versa note. your door to more. now get a $139 per month lease on a 2014 nissan versa note. ♪ there's nothing like being your own boss! and my customers are really liking your flat rate shipping. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order. a a as over 60,000 trees. that's a trend we can all get behind. . >>> new york mayoral candidate bill de blasio is cruising. according to a new poll, de blasio leads by 45 points. the biggest margin in non-incumbent running for new york mayor was 40 points when beane won back in '73. there's another blog shaping up across at new jersey where christie has the lead. we'll be right back. the day we rescued riley, was a truly amazing day. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers. you can find it all on angie's list. join today. when you do what i do, iyou think about risk.. i don't like the ups and downs of the market, but i can't just sit on my cash. i want to be prepared for the long haul. ishares minimum volatility etfs. investments designed for a smoother ride. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus, which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. chantix... it's a non-nicotine pill. i didn't want nicotine to give up nicotine. 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have been spent to restore the damage. another $5 billion have just been allocated. the slow return to normalcy, we've seen elected officials on allocated. work together to put the political self-interest aside and trying to act in the interests of the community. case in point, new jersey governor chris christie -- praising president obama's response to the storm. here he is. >> i'm sure that while the national election is obviously very important, that the people of new jersey at this moment would really be unhappy with me if they thought for a second i was occupying my time thinking about how i was going to get people to vote a week from today. so i don't give a damn about election day, it doesn't matter a lick to me at the moment. i've got much bigger fish to fry than that, so do the people of the state of new jersey. let the politicians who are on the ballot worry about election day, it's not my problem. >> peter king, a congressman from new york. congressman you're noted for figuring things outs for ireland or people of this country. let's talk about what we agree on. i have to admit guilt, i was never aware until i went up there under during duress. i actually saw what was happening out there on staten island. they're not resort areas. they happen to be beach but it's where people live, getting hit after getting hit by other factors in their life. they didn't have it made to start with in their life. talk about these people who were hit hard in the new york area. >> you mentioned staten island, long beach, linden hurst, masuh peek what, they were absolutely devastated. thousands of people were affected. we had whole areas under water, houses actually blew up. many were on fire and the flooding was so bad the fire department couldn't get to them. it was actually horrible. it looked in some ways like a third world country. we're not talking about mansions, we're talking about solid communities of solid, hard working people. they were devastated. you go to someone's house and the street and the lawn were strewn with family mementos, photos, paintings, toys, it was a terrible, terrible situation, yet the people never gave up, they fought hard and they're still fighting hard today. i never thought coming from the northeast that i would be in the middle of a storm like that. it's just not something we identify with. >> the pictures we're showing now, never got the media attention, but nothing like katrina got. we talked about katrina for months around in the media. and new york, the center of the world, never got the attention. imagine you have a house and the house is condemned. it's sitting up on blocks or something or it's been moved and you have no electrical system, the whole area doesn't have an electrical system, the huge capital costs that are involved here, is not just repainting or fixing some shutters, i mean look at this stuff here. what's the condition right now of the politics and what's the condition of the rebuilding. >> the politics, those in new york and new jersey, we're working together. there's no government shutdowns going on in new york and new jersey right now, unlike washington. as far as the rebuilding that's coming in, in congress it took so long, it took over 90 days before the aid was approved. it took ten days for katrina. then you have another 60 days for the government to come up with a proposal. you had comments and the damage was so extensive, it took quite a lot of engineering work and the consultation of local mayors and county executives. so i give the administration credit, tom donovan -- again, a lot of it's going to be rebuilding, for instance rebuilding sewage plants, train yards, rail root lines and to do that, we don't want to spend the money and go through this in another four or five years. the money has been spent very smartly and slowly. as a result of that, it has had a hard time getting out. it's now moving a lot more quickly. but you say the money's not being spent fast enough. they would be the first to be yelling if the money was being spent too fast. instead they're being very prudent and working be the county government, state government, federal government. other than, money's not being wasted. these are all good projects, these are all good attempts to get the money into people and the homes. insurance companies at times are getting in the way. you get something so large, now 16% of new york city is under water. just to give you an example, in a major urban area to have so much under water, subway system, roads, bridges, it's just terrible. >> i think government in this case is the solution, not the problem. thank you, peter king of new york. we'll be right back after this. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new 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under construction. the sea side heights demolished from the storm reopened six months later to tourists and locals. >> we had 1,000 man hours a day working on the project. what we accomplished should have taken two years. >> don't know what's next. >> reporter: electrical wiring possibly damaged in the storm sparked a plays that burned 30 businesses to the ground. >> it's been one thing after another. we are tough. >> reporter: in queens breezy point was one of the hardest hit areas, homes burned and fire trucks unable this get there because of flooded streets a year later there are signs of resilience and recovery. a group of rockaway residents marking the anniversary, holding hands on the beach. an immigration museum at ellis island damaged in the storm, reopened its doors. >> sandy is not a one of a kind storm. the reality is it could let any time, anyplace. >> unbelievable. going from flooding rains a year ago to a beautiful picturesque end to your evening. 61 in the city. pear of fives in ellicott city. go down to the south. here come some clouds. we are anticipating more clouds. believe it or not, clouds will act as an insulator keeping our numbers mild. 50 in the city. cooler to the north and west. frederick around 39. some showers are working through the ohio valley. that could be in here by tomorrow morning's commute. we'll talk about that not seven- day forecast. >>> in less than an hour a meeting will be held to talk about the affordable care act. it is being held from 7 to 8:30 mat good samaritan hospital. >>> speaking of that site, the consecutive director of the hockey, change said she's in the satisfied with it. they're working with the main contractor to make all the changes and improvements. >>> well, for the first time we are hearing an aful -- apology from the people involved in the website. >> we have more on this growing crossers surrounding the affordable care act. >> reporter: a review of the website. >> to get an honest straightforward assessment. >> reporter: or political witch- hunt. >> democrats want it make the affordable care act work. congressional republicans don't. >> reporter: a fresh round of back and forth over obamacare tuesday as house lawmakers president obamaed, praised or picked it apart. >> we're barely four weeks into this one and we're already declaring it dead. >> we're being told everything will be okay soon. why should americans believe you now. >> reporter: the woman in charge was in the hot seat. >> i want to apologize to you that the website has in the worked as well as it should. >> reporter: meanwhile new promises. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your healthcare plan, you'll be able it keep your healthcare plan. >> reporter: that's not the case for million unless the insurance market. the majority of americans with individual plans will find their policies changed or canceled under obama care rules. the white house said those p- they will be -- said they will be able to buy more comprehensive coverage. >> the need to provide greater security to those americans who had no other option. >> reporter: in washington reporting. >> you just heard about the promises made by the president. people who like their healthcare plan can keep it. steny hoyer said the affordable care act didn't allow some to keep their insurance. hoyer told a reporter from the national review that some policies wouldn't meet minimum requirements of obamacare that the president's promises weren't misleading, they're just not clear enough. >>> meanwhile democrats are proposing a fix to the debt ceiling. he wants to authorize additional federal -- republicans blasted the proposal saying the debt limit increase needs to be papered with similar cuts. the constitution gives the power to congress' loan. >>> how the town has been. >> if you love crab cakes, you've known it for a long time. how a restaurant was honored today. >> we made it to 62 degrees. normally we should be around 63. we'll give pay way free stuff. we'll send you some free stuff. we'll send you some mild hair by thursday, but we may have it get through a few scattered showers. let's talk about it on the news.  good call on the subway tuscan chicken melt, this thing is so good. i know, i was just posting about it. #delicious, #lowfat, #boom, #niceprice, #freshlybaked, #cheeseplease, #tangy, #vinaigretteisafunnyword, #i'mabouttoeatthis. #yousnoozeyoulose. 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>> reporter: the fans came through. when batman asked for donation, about $700 to replace his broken bike, they answered. >> within 25 minutes we had everything we needed and we had to cut off the calls. we could have bought him a car if we stayed on the air longer. >> walking up and down with the boom box on his shoulder singing ain't manage but a hound dog. ♪ ain't no friend of mine >> reporter: he's still got it and ocean city wants to show their appreciation. >> a very tight knit community, a very giving community and they came through. >> reporter: in ocean city, don harrison, abc2 news. >> kelly, when you go up to him, you'll say i'm boardwalk elvis. i'm an eye can. batman said in addition to the bike, they gave him a $100 gift certificate to buy a bike helmet. >> for those who used to get your crab cakes from angelinas, you walked a few blocks south and found cocoa's. cocoa's can make a crab cake. >> we're thrilled, honored and overwhelmed by all this. amazing and my parents started this in 1985 and i'm so glad they're still here with me and we're sharing it. >> comptroller dario photograph -- peter francho came. he bought the club in 1985. the tiny kitchen pumps out about 500 crab cakes a year. >> two big names in sports visited. >> he went to hopkins and is an all star. he teamed up with the goose to talk to kids about learning differences. since. it helped him achieve even more on the playing field. >> my message is to always work hard and to use this platform as a gift. >> the foundation helps kids with learning differences and raising money for scholarships. goose was in town because he wants to be. he's over at the man cave show, diy where they fix the basement. >> you going to tell him otherwise? >>> we'll take a look at dundalk toward the key bridge. notice the clouds starting to build. now the clouds coming. dew point's still low at 39. just the gentlest wind coming in at three switching out of the southerly direction which will bring in some milder hair. today we made it to 62. normally around 63. 82 is the record. the sun is setting at 6:09. clear skies for most of the afternoon. back out to the west, here come the clouds. tonight these clouds will act as an insulator in the atmosphere, which will make it feel milder. a cloudy are day for tuesday, showers at night. that should be cloudier for wednesday. then a mild day on thursday. so the numbers are into the 50s. 61 in town. cooling out toward company could have. the numbers will be slow to move. maryland's most powerful weather radar is looking clear overhead. if we go a six, seven hour drive we'll find some precip. then the mild air will start to arrive. right now high pressure is locked in control. it's going to slowly push offshore. that will allow for the clouds to come in, the showers. that will be in here by tomorrow morning. but it's a huge storm system. look what's going on. go from the rockies, the central plains, snow to the north, severe weather to the east. this is setting up over the center portion of the country. that develop a weather outbreak from minneapolis down to dallas. if you have travel plans out to the west, tomorrow will be impacted. thursday will be impacted. lots of flight delays. this system will push in our direction as we go into your day an friday. for the time being into the 60s. 60s and 70s not too far from the south. so here's future weather. tomorrow morning spotty showers from yes down to d.c. notice the temperatures mild into the low 50s. we'll max out in the low 60s for your day on wednesday. here comes this warm front. it will be charging from south to north. warm front by thursday afternoon. that will deliver a punch. forecast highs of 70 to 74 in the city. we'll be talking about above average temperatures. so it's 44 in town, not quite has chilly with the temperatures again most spots being in the low 40s and 64 for wednesday, variable cloudiness, milder. wentz wednesday going down to -- wednesday going down to 40. there will be showers as we did into the trick or treat forecast. friday could pop 75 previously and a big cool june pie next weekend. an isolated shower is possible but it's nice are by sunday. notice the temperatures falling back into the upper 50s. we're back with more news coming up after this. mnever sleeping.g. ever saving. for him, her, and you. every day. but quality affordable health care seems forever out of reach -- until now. i'm doctor peter beilenson. with local doctors we've founded a new approach to health insurance -- evergreen health. neighborhood care, same day appointments, a team approach with doctors and nurses who get to know you. that's evergreen health. learn more at evergreenmd.org. >>> turn off the alarm and sleep. you don't have to weak up at dawn on prief brief for some amazing deals. >> stores are open at thursday night. at 11:00 we'll explain why black friday is now black thursday. we're open a we're always open here. clouds are moving in. it's going to stay mild for tonight. there will be changes. tomorrow morning scattered showers and a mailed surge, lots to talk about at 11. >> all right. we'll be here. will you be here? >> i'll be here. >>> welcome to "world news." tonight under fire, the white house fighting on two fronts, new calls to totally change the way america spies and did president obama break a key promise to all americans about his health care plan. >>> hurricane sandy one year later, the families with their amazing survival stories but are we ready for the neck super storm. >>> made in america, you heard it here first, those olympic uniforms made in china. big news today about what team usa will wear this time. >>> going to extremes, the surfer trying to ride this giant of wave into the record books, why dare devils push the record books. the real reason they do it. >>> good evening. diane is off tonight after a day of double trouble for the white house. scrambling to diffuse not bun wut two fire storms. the president accused of making false promise, even lying about obama care. new calls for a total stop to spying an friends. what did the president know? how much damage has been done and what will he do now. jonathan carl starts us off. >> reporter: under fire for allegedly spying on americans and america's friends, the nation's spy chief made no apologize. >> we do not spy on anyone except for valid foreign purposes and we only work within the law. >> reporter: we confirmed u.s. intelligence has listened on the phone conversations of the leaders of 35 american allies, reports drew sharp criticism from both parties. >> the reports are very disturbing. friends don't spy on friends. >> reporter: or do we? is the spying on friends still going on? >> is the united states now listening in on the phone conversations of friendly presidents and prime ministers? >> jon, i'm not going to get into a discussion of specific reported activities, intelligence gathering activities. >> reporter: are we listening in on the phone conversations of friendly heads of state? >> i'm not going to talk about specific alleged or reported intelligence gathering operations. >> reporter: but the head of the nsa warned that new limits on u.s. espionage could be dangerous. >> it's much more important for this country that we defend this nation and take the beatings than it is to give up a program that would result in this nation being attacked. >> reporter: the spy chiefs also flatly denied reports that they had collected tens of millions of phone records on citizens of spain and france. it turns out that it was spanish and french intelligence that gathered those phone reports. >> the director talked about our allies spying on us. >> he said they do it all the time. in fact, that's why when the president decided he wanted to keep his blackberry it went to u.s. intelligence because they were concerned that even here in washington d.c. that our friends and our enemies could be trying to access whatever he was doing on his blackberry. >> thanks very much. >>> now to the other big fight at the white house. the president accused the breaking a key promise. millions of americans worried they will lose their current insurance coverage and for the first time a government official is apologizing. jim af la reports from washington. >> reporter: for the first time the obama administration issued a direct apology for healthcare.gov. >> i want to apologize to you that the website has not worked as well as it should. >> reporter: there is no apology for the latest dustup over obama care. >> if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. if you like your doctor, keep your doctor. >> reporter: for 14 million americans who buy private health insurance, that may not be true. >> they're being told they can't, that's a lie. >> reporter: julie prince received a letter from her insurance company saying her private plan no longer exists. >> i'm not going to be able to afford anything if i get sick. >> reporter: because insurance companies which offered cheap insurance like julie's lef out basic required by obama care, hospital coverage, maternity, mental health and prescription drugs and are forced to cancel those plans and replace them. julie's new premium would be $210 a month, three times more than she pays now. three independent health care experts tell abc news, julie and the oerts are likely to find plans just as cheap on the marketplace when it's fully functional and with better coverage. >> julie tells us that she doesn't have hospital care on this cheap insurance plan. is that dangerous? >> absolutely. that's on enormous hole in her coverage. >> reporter: oversold or big lie as the president's opponents contend. the white house says americans underinsured will be better off with obama care. >>> we move on to a milestone for countless families across the east coast. it's been one year since super storm sandy hit, changing landscapes and lives. these pictures tell the story. devastation on the jersey shore, that's seaside heights then and today those homes standing strong. in brick, new jersey, there was then, some progress now but still so much work to do. our team is back in the storm zone tonight. we begin with ginger zee. >> holy -- look at this. oh my god, it's washing everything away. >> reporter: swallowed, in the horrific floods, the fires. the remorseless waves and wind. >> oh, my gosh, look at that. this is all ocean coming over here. the storm surges, the tide is coming up. >> reporter: at least 117 lives lost. 650,000 homes damaged or destroyed. even today, from the air, it is a coastline only slowly coming back. >> so you can see going along the shore some homes still being rebuilt. some condemned. right here, a new house is going in. this time last year, lower manhattan flooded. today reborn. that roller coaster ripped from the boardwalk. sandy was truly a super storm. many hurricanes turn back into the hurricane but sandy guided in part by a jet stream slammed straight into the east coast. second, size. sandy was huge. the wind field more than 1,000 miles across piling water from the ocean onto that coast for hours. and third, that epic storm surge, 8 to 10 feet, fueled in part because sandy hit during a full moon, meaning even higher tides than normal. duns and wider beaches are our best defense but today much of the shore is just as vulnerable. >> are we more protected or better off if sandy were to hit now? >> right now it's tough. the area with the most damage we still haven't gotten to yet. >> reporter: some of the reason, it took congress almost a year to release relief funds. out of 48 billion dollars in relief, today only $5.2 billion has been spent. >> can it happen again, i think the answer is obvious that yes. >> definitely. >> reporter: it's so wild to be up close to a home like this that looks like sandy could have happened yesterday. right next door one of those plowed lots. behind it a completely knew home, all levels of recovery. it's not just weeks or months but years to come back from a storm like andy. let's go to amy row bach. she's in hard hit breezy point. >> reporter: ginger, this was one of the hardest hit areas along the eastern sea poord. residents not only had to deal with high winds and flood waters but also a tremendous fire. since then 365 days of changes and challenges. before the storm hit, mary lapera from breezy point was getting ready to hunker down. >> we're sticking it out. >> reporter: like so many she was preparing for a big storm. >> are you going to come see puddles with us? >> reporter: at first rain and flooding. >> it's 6:55 and the power went out. we're officially screwed. >> reporter: then mary's sister joanne spotted a bright light in the distance, the unimaginable. a massive fire began to spread. >> i'm really anxious. >> reporter: our producers were there describing the horror. >> it's destroyed it feels like. it's like the apocalypse hit. >> reporter: firefighters braved waters knee deep saving every life in the town. in the end 135 homes burned to the ground, another 220 destroyed. >> we don't know where they're going to take us. we don't know -- don't know. >> our house was just about here. >> reporter: today mary and joanne's home gone. >> what do you miss the most just about what life was like? >> walking around here you would see someone that you knew and you would go to take a half-hour walk and it would take you three hours because you would stop by someone's house. >> reporter: like so many it's been a rough year of picking up the pieces, fighting with insurance companies. >> can we rebuild, take out a mortgage, fighting to get money. >> reporter: mary and her family say they will rebuild. >> you guys are laughing and smiling but i'm sure there have been tearful nights. >> definitely. you can't really dwell on -- >> you can't change. >> this is upsetting and hurt but you have to smile about it. that's the spirit of breezy. >> reporter: of the 355 homes completely destroyed here, only one has been fully restored, only one family returning. now it is important to note that there are 38 homes currently under construction so those numbers will continue to rise in the weeks and months to come. george? >> they still have that breezy spirit. >>> one more note, in the days after sandy, here in new york city there was a kind of invisible world. senior citizens, prisoners in their homes, unable to walk down. diane sawyer climbed up 17 flights with a nurse to check on some of those stuck in the high-rises. they met carmen in need of water, batteries and the two became frenlds. we checked back on them and they say their bond is strong. >>> we're following another storm blamed for a massive pileup in arizona. at least three people were killed. the dust made it impossible for drivers to see the road. cars were crushed. the highway littered with vehicles and some pulled off the road to prooefrt collisions. >>> you may remember an uproar from the last summer olympics when we revealed team usa would be wearing uniforms made in china. today the famous designer made good on a promise. uniforms for the next winter olympics in russia will be made in america. >> reporter: they are the pride of america, team usa but so many americans were dis appointed to learn those uniforms at the opening ceremonies in london were made in china. we were the first to tell you. >> what caught our eye here at "world news" was the label. the us uniforms were made in china. how can it be. >> reporter: from the berets to the shoes, all the of it was made outside the u.s. >> i think they should take all the uniforms and burn them. >> reporter: back then ralph lauren promising to do better at this year's winter olympics. today they showed us the proof. >> made in the usa. >> reporter: team usa's new uniforms entirely made in america down to every last thread, butten and zipper. the wool from this ran cher in oregon. >> we're honored to be part of the project. >> reporter: the thread supplied by nazareth pennsylvania. stonehenge fiber hill in michigan and stoll fashions in new york city. in all more than 40 american americans designing, sourcing and manufacturing the new look. more than 1 billion dollars and hundreds of jobs staying here, meaning this year team usa can stand tall entirely. >> made in america! >> this is the jacket that the men and women will wear in the closing ceremonies. the wool was manufactured right here in new york. ralph lauren is making it in 20 sizes. we're talking a lot of jobs and a lot of wool from america. this one is in your size. >>> coming up, pushed to the extreme, the surf riding a giant wave and not even the sky is the limit. >>> the miracle babies of sandy, carried through the darkness. david muir was right there a year ago and he's back with them tonight. we're back in two minutes. so ally bank has a raise your rate cd that won't trap me in a rate. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? 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"all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. yes, the government shutdown is over. the sequester continues. and today, another part of basic government function turned off by republicans. one republican, to be precise. >> i'm going to block every appointment in the united states senate until the survivors are being made available to congress. i'm tired of hearing from people on tv and reading about stuff in books. we need to get to the bottom of this. >> just 12 days since the government reopened, and lindsey graham is promising to bring executive appointments to a halt. and he can do it using a senate protocol that allows for any single senator to block any nomination by placing a hold on it. but that's how lindsey graham is able to block all nominees, not why. to understand why graham wants to bring government to a halt, you have to meet lindsey graham's primary challenger, south carolina state senator lee bright. >> patrick henry said "give me liberty or give me death." we've got folks in our country that's getting above 50% that say give me liberty or give me a card. >> lindsey graham, like john boehner and the house republicans before him, is threatening to essentially shut down part of the government so he can defend himself from a tea party backlash. recent polling found only 53% of south carolina republicans have a favorable view of graham. for some context, graham's unfavorables in the state are 30 points higher than its fellow senate republican tim scott. needing to turn around his numbers, graham is turning back to benghazi. >> we're just beginning on benghazi. and to the families, we're not going to let this go. >> lindsey graham is just doing what the modern gop does best, using political feeder to placate the base and leaving the american people with the damage. >> talk about benghazi. >> graham is going to block important, substantive nominations so he can win his primary. did you want someone to run the federal reserve, the world's most important economic body? well, sorry, benghazi. >> i haven't forgotten about benghazi. >> did you want someone to run the department of homeland security? that can't happen because benghazi. >> what happened in benghazi. >> did you want an undersecretary for nuclear security? >> we haven't heard from one person in benghazi. benghazi. benghazi. benghazi. benghazi. >> you mentioned benghazi. >> yeah. >> america's news may not be secure, but at least lindsey graham will be re-elected. >> this administration needs to be held accountable for benghazi a story of americans abandoned by their government at a time they needed their government the most. >> joining me now, david brock, founder of "media matters for america," and author of the newly released ebook called "the benghazi hoax." and david, take me through the almost tultemic resonance that benghazi and the deaths of those four americans in that american consulate that night has taken on among the right. >> well, sure. so, in this book, we outline 15 what we call hoaxes. and i think today, in your lead-in, we saw the 16th. you know, behind every bully is a coward, and lindsey graham made a big deal of making friends with hillary clinton earlier in his days in the senate. then he switched course on benghazi and basically accused her of having blood on his hands, and what changed there? why is he playing politics with national security is the primary challenge he has from the tea party. the tea party challenger referred to him as a community organizers for the muslim brotherhood. and the truth is, and we try to get to facts in the book -- >> wait a second, he actually called him the community organizer for the muslim brotherhood? >> that's right, so this is posturing. there are benghazi truthers at all levels of the republican party, starting with dick cheney, who went on talk radio last week and lied about secretary clinton's role in this to the nut who heckled her last week. so, lindsey graham is looking at the benghazi truthers who are primary voters in south carolina. and the fact is, the people he wants to hear from, chris, they were interviewed by the fbi, they were interviewed by the state department accountability review board. those transcripts are available to the senate. and lindsey graham even met with some of them. so, this is like your 16th hoax. >> there was a report. i think part of the reason why lindsey graham timed this announcement to this morning where he went on "fox & friends" and made this big deal about it, and i'm going to talk about what this means. i mean, he's putting a hold on all the nominees. he will actually block people from getting a confirmation, et cetera. there was a report on "60 minutes" last night i want to play you an excerpt of, because i think the conservatives i read seem very excited that this is going to bring back this issue. take a listen. >> it's now well established that the americans were attacked by al qaeda in a well-planned assault. five months before that night, morgan jones first arrived in benghazi. but on his first drive through benghazi, he noticed the black flags of al qaeda flying openly in the streets, and he grew concerned about the guard force as soon as he pulled up to the u.s. compound. >> there was nobody there that we could see. then we realized they were all inside drinking tea, laughing and joking. >> what was your reaction to the "60 minutes" spot, david? >> well, look, i think that they pose lingering questions about benghazi. and the truth is, there were 157 attacks on u.s. diplomatic facilities since 1998. most of those were under george w. bush. we've had 18 congressional hearings and 25,000 administration documents produced, no evidence of wrongdoing by the president, by secretary clinton. even republican senator bob corker said months ago, we know what happened in benghazi. he's satisfied that he knows it. so, in this report, i mean, i'll say something about two of the sources in the report. one of them, gregory hicks, was presented as a so-called whistleblower by darrell issa, and you know, he previously lied and said that there was a military standdown order in benghazi. that never happened, didn't stop fox news from airing 85 prime time segments saying there was one, but all the testimony from the military officials said that never happened. and the other witness appears to be some type of british mercenary who, apparently, in conversations with fox news, asked for money to talk. and so, you know, fox news even drew a line there, but it was good enough for cbs. >> david brock from "media matters," thank you very much for your time. >> thanks. >> joining me, former governor of minnesota and former presidential candidate, republican tim blunty, now with the services roundtable, represents financial services companies. the last thing you did in politics was attempt to navigate the mind field of a republican primary, a national republican primary, it should be noted in running for president. put yourself in lindsey graham's shoes. there are drern things he cannot back away from. he is one of the architects of the comprehensive immigration reform bill. he is on the record being quite angry at ted cruz and his ilk for the government shutdown. if you are him, if you are lindsey graham, how do you go out and win that primary in south carolina? >> well, chris, good evening. and first of all, before we talk about the primary in south carolina, let's just make sure we understand lindsey graham and his motives. i've known lindsey for years. he's a member of the united states armed services. he's been involved in security and military matters with passion and sincerity for many, many years. and to say, you know, his concern about benghazi is somehow a concoction around the south carolina primary, first of all, isn't true. it isn't the lindsey graham i know, and i don't think anybody who really knows him would say it's lacking in sincerity. and number two, if you were going to think about benghazi as a primary issue, you know, most of the tea party or many of them, libertarians or tea party types, are noninterventionists. lindsey tends to be interventionist -- >> right, which is why it's a politically expeditious issue for precisely that reason. on to the first point irks don't think he is faking that he is concerned about benghazi. i'm not saying that. i don't doubt his intentions. but of course, the trick in politics is a matter of emphasis. there are a whole lot of issues that lindsey graham did not get up before the nation today and say that he would hold every single presidential nomination hostage to other than benghazi, right? so, the choice that a politician decides to emphasis at certain point are partly the product of the circumstances they're involved in. >> but your premise is, look, this is a concoction in precipitation for a primary fight and hopefully a primary victory, in lindsey's case, but this ignores a decade or more of committed history on exactly these kinds of issues taking essentially same or similar positions that lindsey graham has put forward. and to assign political motive to that and say it's insincere and inconsistent with his past record doesn't withstand scrutiny. by the way, chris, less than a half hour ago on your network, not fox, on msnbc -- >> brandon webb was on chris matthews' show, yes, absolutely. i watched the interview. in fact, i know brandon quite well. >> raising, though, chris, legitimate questions about the issue. >> yes, look, right. so, the point, though, is, show me the other issues that lindsey graham had said he is going to put a hold on every single presidential nominee, including the federal reserve, which i imagine your clients in the financial services roundtable can't be crazy about, any other issue where he is going to put a hold on every nominee other than this one issue. >> well, i don't know of any others that he's done that, but i do believe he feels strongly about this. and just because he threatens to put a hold, or in fact, puts a hold on certain nominees, doesn't go to the issue of how long he will keep the hold on or under what circumstances he might release them. look, he's frustrated. he thinks this is an important issue. it has a lot of people on both sides of the aisle raising questions. usually when there's a debate like this, a good way to open, you know to address it is just open it up to the facts. so, that's all he's trying to do. and again, i don't think it's insincere, and it's consistent with a decade-long service on these issues. >> do you honestly think -- honest question -- do you think a politician faced with the situation lindsey graham's in, which presumably, he wants to win re-election, that there is nothing about his behavior that changes because of a primary challenge to his right? >> well, i can't speak to how he thinks each day because i don't talk to him each day -- >> no, but a republican -- take a republican member, a standard republican member of the senate or the house of representatives, are you telling me that the threat of a primary challenge has no effect whatsoever on their political behavior? >> well, if the standard, though -- to answer that question -- is are you willing to engage in abnormal procedural activity in the united states congress, then every one of them or nearly every one of them would be guilty of that charge. you know, the senate hasn't passed a budget in nine years. they passed financial matters or budgetary matters on extraordinary procedural maneuvers. so, if your standard's going to be invoking or ignoring procedures in an abnormal way, then they all have dirty hands. >> well, i agree with you that the abnormal has become normal. former governor tim pawlenty, appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> john judas with "the new republic" where he just wrote the cover story on the future of the tea party. john, i want to begin with a little senate hate, because i think it's something you and i see eye to eye on. can we get rid of the hold? why is it the case that any member of the senate can single-handedly block a nominee by not giving unanimous consent? >> it's not in the constitution. it's a part of the tradition of the senate. so is the filibuster. i think that those kind of measures make it very hard for our democracy to function. >> and not only that, right, there is a way in which in the past, those have been bound by a certain kind of institutional norms, traditions, et cetera, that we have gotten out past recently, particularly from the republican party? >> in the past, for instance, filibusters were extraordinarily rare. what i remember from my childhood was over civil rights. that was the main issue. but they happen once in a decade, maybe. but in the last 20 years, they've happened repeatedly, and it's become so that you can't pass a bill without 60 votes. that's an extraordinary thing, and i think that that's happened largely because of a change in the republican party which has polarized the parties in washington and made it very hard for the government to function. >> just little bit of data here. so, we're about to enter, i think, into a protracted battle over a nominee to the d.c. circuit appellate court, which is considered the sort of most important court in the land beneath the supreme court. and in terms of nominees, clinton had 77% of his judicial nominees confirmed at this point of his presidency, bush 92% and barack obama coming in third at 75%. and here's a great upside down example of what this obstruction looks like. you have a situation now in which senator chuck grassley is basically saying that president obama, in trying to appoint a nominee to fill a vacate seat on that court is engaged in "court-packing." are we officially through the looking glass? >> well, i think we are in a period where it's going to be very hard for the government to function, and really, you're going to have to see a change in the parties. in california, the solution turned out to be the democrats getting the kind of majority where they could pass things without worrying about the filibusters or blocking. so, maybe that's the solution. >> yes, you just wrote a piece in which you basically think the path out of the wilderness from this sort of deadlock of destruction and obstruction and dysfunction is basically just winning all the way around. you point to california, the only way out of this is just overwhelming maximum majorities, but that's not plausible nationwide, is it? >> well, there's two paths. that's one path. i think it's very hard to imagine that, especially because of the house of representatives. i think you could imagine the senate, as happened in 2008, getting a veto-proof majority or 60 votes, which are necessary to get past the filibuster. the other possibility is for the republicans to become more of a centrist party. that also might happen, and it might happen in the wake of the shutdown and the reaction of the business community to what occurred and to the danger, really, that the republican right poses to the country. so, that's the other possibility, that you'll see a kind of a change where the people who are now dealing with the obama people, people like senator corker, senator ayotte, will become the norm, and the ted cruzes will become marginalized. >> in order for that to happen, of course, and this gets back to the point i was just making with tim pawlenty, there has to be a shift in political incentives so that lindsey graham and others face people essentially to their left in primaries, rather than a man like lee bright, who says tyranny is what barack obama, harry reid and the rest of the liberals are trying to force upon our land. john judis from the new republic, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >>> coming up -- >> we need a responsible, permanent solution to the problem of those who are here illegally. but first, we must follow through on the broken promises of the past to secure our borders and enforce our laws. >> during this address that republican senator marco rubio famously took that famous sip of water, which inspired our continuing series "i see you, marco rubio," to retract his constantly evolving position on immigration reform. the latest twist. >>> we'd love to hear from you on twitter and facebook. the obama care fearmongering continues. now it's sharply focused on the initial implementation of the affordable care act. tonight's question -- what's the latest myth a right-wing buddy has told you about the healthcare.gov site or obama care. i'll share your replies later on the show. stay tuned. the secret is out. hydration is in. 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"otherwise, this latest effort to make progress will meet the same fate as previous efforts, failure." now only did he trumpet the piecemeal approach, he instructed the house not to pass anything that can go into conference committee with the senate's bill. the senate, of course, passed with great fanfare a bipartisan bill that rubio's quite familiar with because he helped write it. >> here in america, generations of unfulfilled dreams will finally come to pass, and that's why i support this reform, not just because i believe in immigrants, but because i believe in america even more. >> i like that speech, but just to be clear here, rubio today came out against that speech, came out against his own bill and also came out against even the possibility of the house passing a bill that could ever be merged with his own bill. if you've been following this saga, you probably knew this was coming. and the worst part, this is the worst part, is that while it might tangibly hurt the chances for reform and the 11 million people living in limbo, it will do nothing for rubio's own political fortunes. it is purposeless destruction at this point. he's already rightly taken a political hit for crafting and promoting the gang of eight bill. now he's going to take another hit, understandably, for his inconsistency, or as one of the republicans who plans to lobby for immigration reform in washington tomorrow told msnbc "finding a politician who's one on the i was for it before i was against it tragedy." to use the recurring metaphor, today's news is the part of the episode where rubio tries to put the bottle back on the table after having taken a sip. the problem is that everyone saw what he did. joining me now is morella praeli with the united we dream network. as an activist, you have worked in opposition to and with marco rubio. you've met with him. you've come on our show before, defended him and his integrity and good faith. how are you feeling in reaction to the news today? >> i guess the first words that come to mind, chris, are irresponse library and cowardly. not how i'm feeling, but really the perspective we currently hold of senator rubio after his back-and-forth on immigration. i mean, talk about working on something for months, coming to an agreement, taking a vote for it, and then completely saying no, house republicans, you should just ignore this and move in a different direction. >> the other irony of today is that the same day that marco rubio did this, and it's getting a fair april press, representative jeff den yam of california becomes the first republican to sign on with 185 democrats to co-sponsor a house plan to adopt most of the senate's bill. "i'm the first republican. i expect more to come on board. they've told me we're going to have this issue on the floor by the end of the year." take those two developments into condition, marco rubio, jeff denham. where are we on this right now? >> i think during the shutdown, there wasn't a lot of progress in congress on immigration reform. our movement has been very loud from day one and continue to do so through august recess and through the shutdown. we continue to come out and press members of congress to really get behind an immigration reform bill that really honors the dignity of our people, and that means that it would have to include a pathway to citizenship for the 11 million. >> okay, but here's the problem. i'm sorry to cut you off, but here's the problem. that argument, which i find very persuasive, why is that going to be persuasive to members of the house republican caucus who are looking at the same political incentives marco rubio is? >> you have members who have come out for citizenship. we have the votes that we need. and if it were not for what we call the hasser excuse, we would have a vote on either the senate bill or a modified version, hr-15 right now. that's the senate bill, plus bipartisan policy that was voted out of committee in the house that addresses the border security issue. so you know, i think we have people like representative denham coming out in support for this bill. we have other folks. we now have 29 house republicans who have come out for citizenship. this weekend, representative franks from arizona, from the 8th congressional district, also came out for pathway to citizenship. so, while you have some forward movement in the house, you know, as they figure out procedurally how they want to move forward with immigration reform, you have people like senator rubio coming out trying to defeat a measure he worked on trying to move forward. and to me, that's not leadership. i also don't want us to be overly focused on him, because i think the people who really matter right now at this point in the debate are house republican leadership, and that means speaker boehner has to really address this issue. >> do you think that you have the votes? you just said that you think you have the votes. if john boehner -- we did a segment on this last week, where he basically said this is the same dynamic as the shutdown, which is, the analogy is, you know, the whole time john boehner could have ended the shutdown like that, brought a clean cr to the floor it passes with all the democrats and enough republicans. do you think that dynamic is in play right now on some version of the senate bill? >> yes. i think that if it were not for the haster excuse, right? this rule that's not really a rule in the house, we would be able to have a vote on this bill now. we have 185 democrats who have signed on to hr-15, to the immigration reform bill in the house that has a pathway to citizenship, that addresses the border security issues, et cetera, and i think that we can probably see 195 to 200 democrats on that bill. we now have 29 republicans in the house who have come out. that's over 218 votes. >> right. >> in the house. >> i want to play something for you that senator john mccain actually said about the politics of this issue this morning at a breakfast in chicago. take a listen. >> let's say we do pass it. it will not gain us a single republican voter, but what it will do for the republican party is it will allow us to compete for the hispanic vote. it will give us a playing field where we can argue for lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government, strong military, et cetera. but if we don't pass it, we will not compete for the hispanic vote. >> if we don't pass it, we will not compete for the hispanic vote. do you think he's right? >> yeah, i think he's absolutely right, and i actually would make an argument for not only the hispanic vote but also for independent voters, right? so, immigration reform and the current moral crisis that exists in our community because, you know, 1,100 people are getting deported every day that president obama doesn't halt the deportations and every day the house republicans don't act on this bill. so, i think americans have tuned in to that. i think americans understand the crisis that our community is faced with every day, and they tie that to the inaction. i mean, but republicans have now this track where they have to first fail at something to then realize that it's political suicide for them to continue on that destructive path. >> that's a good point, and that is exactly the dynamic that had to happen with the shutdown, and hopefully, i hope that you're right, that enough failure will convince john boehner to do the thing he did with the shutdown, the thing he did with sandy recovery, which is bring it to a vote. lorella praeli from the united dream network, thank you so much. >> the story in california where hundreds of thousands of middle class americans are finding sticker shock. >> the president has some credibility problems, too, because he goes out and says these things that have right from the get-go been untrue, and he knew they were untrue. >> that was karl rove on fox news earlier today doing his best to contribute to the not quite all the information campaign on obama care, and i'm going to explain, coming up. >>> do you remember that weird moment at the g-8 summit in 2006 when president bush gave an unsolicited shoulder massage to german chancellor angela merkel? it was one of the more bizarre moments of the bush presidency, a moment that was pretty much seared into my brain. and i cannot be the only person in america who immediately thought back to that moment when i heard some of the most recent revelations about nsa surveillance. thanks to edward snowden, we now know the nsa monitored the phone conversations of 35 world leaders. that includes merkel, who is object sensibly a u.s. ally. merkel was reportedly livid about the surveillance and called president obama to register her displeasure. but the spying may have begun as far back as 2002, the early days of the bush administration, before merkel even became chancellor. and that timeline makes this clip from 2006 even creepier! i can't help but wonder if bush had gotten a tip from the nsa about how merkel mentioned on the phone she enjoyed the occasional back rub. here's the craziest part about this whole thing, it's not that we were tapping the german chancellor's phones, which is not necessarily that surprising, even though it involved an ally, it is that, apparently, president obama did not know we were doing it, according to a report from the "wall street journal" out today. the spying on merkel was part of the massive surveillance operation put in place by president george w. bush after the september 11th attacks, which members of the bush administration continue to defend to this day. >> we do have a fantastic intelligence capability worldwide against all kinds of potential issues and concerns. we are vulnerable, as was shown on 9/11, and you never know what you're going to need when you need it. and the fact is, we do collect a lot of intelligence, and without speaking about any particular target or group of targets, that intelligence capability is enormously important to the united states. >> of all the dangers that come with this really massive, sprawling surveillance state that dick cheney and george w. bush helped construct, the erosion of personal privacy, the damaged diplomatic relations, the biggest may be this. the apparatus itself is so big, it cannot be adequately overseen by the person who is dramatically accountable for managing it. the "wall street journal" reported, the president went nearly five years without learning u.s. spies were bugging the phones of world leaders. he only discovered the spying due to an internal review that started this summer. officials said decisions like this, to, you know, for instance, spy on world leaders, are made at the agency level. perhaps the best way to think about the nsa is the way we think about the banks that got us into the financial crisis. they are institutions that are so massive and complex, they cannot actually be managed. their very existence in their current state threatens epic destruction when inevitable human error occurs. that's where we've gotten with our surveillance state. it has to shrink or we will eventually find ourselves living through the surveillance version of the great crash. perhaps that's what we are seeing right now. >>> have you heard that hundreds of thousands of people are losing their health care coverage because of obama care? well, that's not really the whole story. we're going to bring in an editor at "consumer reports" to separate myth from fact, so tell your favorite right-wing uncle to watch, because it's next. first, the three awesomest things on the internet today. we begin with an answer to a question that probably shouldn't need to keep asking. actress julianne hough made a name for herself on "dancing with the stars" but enjoys all kinds of shows, including "orange is the new black." reportedly, she dressed in a halloween costume as one of the show's african-american characters. as you can imagine, her blackface was not well received. hough was quick to apologize on twitter for the costume, but i started thinking about a way to prevent these incidents in the future. i asked on twitter, can someone make a microsite at shouldidressinblackface.com with "no" as the only text on the landing face? and twitter user leah doolittle relied buying the name asap. i encourage everyone to visit the site and take in its subtle message. and while i'm at it, i'd like to wish for some other things that will be granted by the magic twitter pixies -- single-payer and one? the second awesomest thing on the internet today, the band is back on the field. last week, the ohio state marching band received kudos for their tribute to michael jackson, complete with the moonwalk. for this week, they had to top itself and they did with a tribute to multiple blockbuster hollywood movies. there's clark kent entering a phone booth only to emerge as superman with cape flowing behind him as he stops a building from falling down. seriously. there was harry potter riding a broom as he chased down the golden snitch. nice form. and although we only have a few seconds, we thought we'd show you this jurassic park dinosaur devouring an unlucky victim. ♪ >> delicious! pity the team that has to follow that halftime show. might as well stay in the locker room. and the third awesomest thing on the internet today. you know what they say about imitation, it's the greatest form of flattery and edward norton hosted "saturday night live." norton is becoming a wes anderson regular. in our wildest imaginations, we never thought we'd see him in something like this, a trailer for a new horror movie as if directed by wes anderson with all the whimsy and flights of fancy we've come to love. norton makes a spot-on owen wilson who is trying to protect his family from quirky knife-wielding psychopaths at his door. >> the story of one determined father -- >> hey, kids, come on, let's go to the panic room. ♪ >> and his two precocious children. >> we have to protect ourselves or we'll die. >> quick, let's gather all our weapons. rock, hammer, swiss army knife, sling shot, firecracker, ship in a bottle, protractor, picture, assault rifle, little flack. >> the sketches were all amazing, production design was off the charts, all of which begs one question, when are they actually making this movie and can the answer be immediately? 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number one, the american health care system is way, way too expensive and leaves too many people uninsured. it delivers the worst value of any system among developed countries. that's number one. number two, the majority of people do not want to change their health care. those two ideas were always very much in tension with each other. but the design of obama care was to leave as much as possible of our existing health care system in place while also covering the uninsured and bringing down costs. what we are seeing right now is the front edge of where attempts to deal with truth number one run into truth number two. under the affordable care act, you will no longer be permitted to buy a really crappy health insurance policy, just as under financial reform, lots of folks are no longer permitted to buy heinously destructive adjustable rate balloon payment mortgages. joining me now to explain this is nancy metcalf, senior editor at "consumer reports," dr. menisha shermana, medical director at evergreen health care, part of a new insurance provider in maryland's health exchange and jonathan coombs, senior editor at "the new republic," author of "sick: the untold story of america's health care crisis and the people who pay the price." all right, there's two issues floating around. i saw it really explode this weekend. one is people are getting their plans canceled. what is going on? we were all told nothing would change and now things are changing. you sold us a bill of goods, barack obama's a tyrant, i hate you. then the other is, the prices in the exchange. so, i want to take them in order, because there's actually some really interesting and important truths to be told here, and i want to have you guys with your expertise explain what's going on with these cancellations right after we take this break. 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[ sponge ] so it's not a chore. >>> we're back. i'm here with nancy metcalf, dr. money nisha sharma, jonathan cohen. jonathan, explain to me what's going on with these plans being canceled. >> i actually like the way you explained this tension between trying to create a better health care system but recognizing that a lot of people have insurance that they like. so, the basic approach of obama care, the affordable care act is to look and say, well, who has stable insurance right now? and predominantly, that's people, you know, with insurance from a large employer or from medicare or from medicaid. and that's actually the vast majority of americans. so, for them, you know, very little changes. but you have this group of people who are buying insurance on their own, and these are where you have all the problems, this is where you have all the problems, all those plans that you mentioned that don't cover things. when you can buy a plan on the individual market, it might be really cheap, but it won't cover maternity it won't cover mental health, it will have huge deductibles it won't cover prescription drugs. and basically, the law says, look, we want to set a standard, a minimum standard that all plans must meet these, you know, must provide these things. and if there are plans out there that don't, you know, insurance companies are going to have to come up with something new. now, that means that the people who have those plans now eventually are going to have to give them up. that is what we're seeing. it is that very small number of americans who have to give up those plans. >> nancy, the individual market was kind of a wild west before this bill, right? i mean, as someone at "consumer reports," have you interacted with the individual market? >> extensively, and it's been a nightmare for consumers. they don't understand it. it's been tremendously easy for them to end up with horrendous insurance that doesn't -- talk about not covering prescription drugs, not covering hospitalization, not covering doctor visits, not covering x-rays. it's just been horrendous, and it's been very difficult for people to navigate. the affordable care act is going to change that. you're not going to be able to buy a junk plan anymore. they're against the law. >> do you think that's a good thing? >> absolutely, because it's doing for people on the individual market what big, huge human resources departments have been doing for years for people who get insurance through their jobs. >> so, the employer-provided health care, the people who are negotiating these big, bulk contracts, they also put in minimum standards into those big contracts when you get employer-provided? >> yes, absolutely. >> dr. sharma, you're now active in health care provider in maryland that's setting up this exchange, and the other thing besides plans getting canceled is the idea of rates going up. we are hearing any time there is an american out there, looks like their rates are going up, they will be on your television set. what is your sense in the early going of on balance what's happening to folks that are going into the exchanges? >> so, you know, i think that when we look at insurance policies being canceled and raising prices and premiums going up, i think those are really great headlines for people who hate the affordable care act. but the fact of the matter is, is that you have to look under the sticker price. the sticker price may be that it's, you know, "x" amount of dollars, but there's a lot of subsidies that go on with these sticker prices. and underneath it is giving comprehensive health care. prior to the affordable care act, let's not forget that insurance companies were not regulated, they were not held accountable for giving people proper health care access. and so, with the affordable care act and the sticker prices that may look at the first blush as being expensive, you've got to look under the hood of the car and be able to say, hey, this is what we're getting. >> right, and the big question is subsidies. we don't know, for instance, in the woman profiled on cbs, we do not know if she applies for subsidies. even that being the case, jonathan, it is true, right, there will be some people in the future world who will pay more for insurance. that is not an absolute outright falsehood about some set of human beings under the affordable care act? >> no, it's absolutely the case. there are going to be people who pay more, and there are going to be people who pay less. there is no way to design a health care system where everybody pays less. what i think is important to remember, though, is that the best estimates i've seen say that if you look at the people who buy insurance now and what they will be paying later, the most likely, the majority will be paying less. so you'll have more winners than losers. if you want to think of it that way. and even the people who will be paying less -- and this is what i think everyone is saying tonight -- is the people who are paying more, they're still getting much better insurance. they're getting better coverage. and you know, in the long run, they may actually spend less on their medical bills because they'll have better coverage. >> does that more or less jive with what you've found? >> yes, and the problem is, people don't realize they've got these subsidies coming to them. if i can do a little ad. >> yes. >> "consumer reports" created an online interactive tool. you put in a couple pieces of information, it's anonymous. if you can't find it out right now from healthcare.gov, you can come to our site and find out whether you have one of these subsidies coming to you, or maybe even have your kids be eligible for c.h.i.p., maybe even be eligible for medicaid. >> right. >> so, that's -- because it's a thing that a lot of people are really missing. >> this is a really important point that not just subsidies in the market, but there is medicaid expansion, there is c.h.i.p., a variety of things people may qualify for if they can make it through the thicket. what's your experience been like, dr. sharma, in maryland so far? i know the exchanges run into problems there. as a frontline provider, are you confident about where this is headed right now? >> yes, i am. i think, you know, all good things have time to cultivate and work out the kinks. the insurance exchange is a great place for folks to get quality, low-cost health care. evergreen co-op is a -- it came to fruition because of the affordable care act, because its actual mission is to be able to say, hey, we're all about patients' health. we care about what matters to patients. their voice counts. prior to the affordable care act, let's not forget, i'm not an insurance expert, but i'm an everyday doctor, everyday people, and i can tell you with all of my patients that have not had health insurance and would come and see me because they were really, really sick, this is the first time where they'll be able to have actual access to health care that they can afford. and you know, it's a step in the right direction for it.
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"early start" begins right now. >>> spying on america's friends. what did the president nen what is he going to do about it? the new plans this morning that could dramatically change u.s. intelligence operations.the new could dramatically change u.s. intelligence operationis he goi? the new plans this morning that could dramatically change u.s. intelligence operations. >>> a frantic manhunt. two inmates who broke out of a oklahoma jail back behind bars but two more on the loose this morning as we learn more how they made their daring escape. >> that is a community very concerned. >>> a major milestone of recovery nearly one year after superstorm sandy. >> what a year. >>> good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> so many people perplexed this morning is it really possible the u.s. was eavesdropping on ally world leaders for years and president obama didn't know? no one told him? phone conversations from u.s. friends like german chancellor angela merkel. the administration insists the president did not know. now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> reporter: senior administration officials tell cnn president obama did not know about the nsa surveillance of merkel and other allies until earlier this year. when he found out he ordered a stop to some of the programs. the democratic chairman of the senate intelligence community dianne feinstein usually an ally of the white house says that is not good enough and wants a total review of all u.s. intelligence programs. here is one explanation former vice president cheney gave cnn's jake tapper. >> we are vulnerable as was shown on 9/11. you never know what you're going to need when you need it. the fact we do collect a lot of intelligence. that intelligence capability is enormously important to the united states to the foreign policy to defense matters and economic matters and i'm a strong supporter of it. >> reporter: jim sciutto, cnn, washington. >>> our thanks to jim. >>> healthcare.gov is apparently off life support this morning. the obama care website back online after suffering a nationwide network outage over the weekend. later this morning, testifying at the congressional hearing will be an administration for the medicare and medicaid services. 325,000 people have now been able to sign up for private insurance through obama care state-run marketplaces. cnn has learned health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius missed an extended deadline set by house committee to turn over documents about the healthcare.gov website and could trigger a congressional subpoena from republicans. >>> lindsey graham is trying to hold up all nominations for federal positions until the outpost in benghazi appear in congress. they say they sent someone there on the night of the attack. the white house is accusing republicans of playing politics with the issue. >>> secretary of state john kerry may travel to egypt in the coming weeks we hear. it would be his first trip there since president mohammed morsi was ousted by the military last summer. ties between washington and cairo have been strained since then. the u.s. recently withholding $260 million in cash aid and military weapons pending egypt's progress on democracy and on human rights. >>> they are picking up the pieces this morning after one of the most powerful storms in years, which has battered great britain and western europe. at least 13 people were killed. pretty amazing pictures here. hundreds of thousands left without power. paralyzing storm forced the cancellation of trains, planes, ferries on monday because of winds reaching hurricane force. >> look at that! >> crazy, right? >> you don't usually see this type of thing in western europe. they get it once every 20 years or so. gusts of 99 miles per hour were reported south of england this is in belgium here. clearly the people there not used to it and not sure what to do but you can see the power of the storm. >> great everybody was helping each other. you can't get across the street. it was throwing people all over the place. >> probably not a good day to be out on a bike ride. >> or holding an umbrella. >>> there is cause for celebration here on the east coast. one year after superstorm sandy. ellis island is back and pope. ameri -- open. >> yes, we are shy a little bit on exhibits and artifacts, but we are not shy on character at all. >> that guy david lusinger is retiring to congratulations to your retirement. it happened on the statue of liberty birthday. >> happy birthday. >> i forget to say happy birthday. for more is indra petersons in. it was devastated by the superstorm and then scorched by a fire last month. >> reporter: it is already hard to believe it's been a storm since this devastating storm. this storm affected a hundred million people. i brought up a satellite view to remind you how large this storm was. we are talking about extending from maine down through florida and even extending all the way back through michigan. that is the massive size of this storm to remind you about 5 million people lost power. hundreds of thousands of homes were impacted and, of course, superstorm fashion it was about the timing. it had a nine-foot storm surge and it combined with high tide so we talked about a record breaking 13.88 storm surge really when the two came in and enundated the area with water. this morning, i'm standing in front of the jet star roller coaster used to be and it was torn down in may. no longer do we see that symbol of this iconic pier here this morning. to my right they are rebuilding and it's going to take some time. the good news the boardwalk is up this morning. the bottom level of casino pier was open the summer to slow, slow business this summer. you can tell they will continue to rebuild and try to build another roller coaster and it looks like next summer hoping to have it open but may take another year. the good news 90% of the businesses are open. i want to talk about the impact, what it was. sandy came and completely perpendicular to the coast and that is the reason that storm surge was so high. i want to take you into some maps across the country. we have another system that is important to talk about. big system bringing heavy snow today from wyoming and in through colorado and portions of nevada. you're looking at the storm system makingity way through. about 10 inches of snow possible. good news for ski resorts. a good 10 inches possible there and good news for opening season here for a lot of our local resorts. the system, unfortunately, is going to clash. the cold air with the warm air in the south so we have a severe weather threat today in through portions of texas. that same system will make its way to the east so anywhere from the ohio valley into the northeast it looks like we will be looking at heavy rain for halloween. tough to say. >> yikes. bummer there. amazing pictures behind you of just one year ago. today, so much devastation. thanks so much. >>> coming up next, manhunt. two inmates who escaped an oklahoma jail captured and two more on the loose. >>> chris brown set free from jail after getting a big break in court. >> i'll say. >>> plus, it is time for the morning rhyme. tweet us with your own original verse. it can be about anything. the #early start and #early rhyme and we will read the best ones on the air in the next half hour. 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iphones in the fourth quarter. revenues rose 17% from a year ago. it was more than half of apple's quarterly sales but the average price of an iphone declined 6.6% from a year ago. mac sails showed a 7% decline from a year ago. it was the third consecutive decline for apple. another record day on the s&p. it wasn't very much but a little bit. the s&p 500 gained two points to put it over friday's all-time high. the s&p has been up for eight of the last nine sessions. the nasdaq and dow closed lower. the dow up 19% for the year. this is unbelievable. the nasdaq up 30% and s&p 500 up 24%. 24%. fu [ male announcer ] if you can clear a crowd but not your nasal congestion, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter. and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. cashback concierge, here. what is a cashback concierge? well there's lots of ways you can get cash back. 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obama said an internal review is under way. >> but i'm not here to talk about classified information. what i am confirming is the fact that the word undergoing a complete review of how our intelligence operates outside of the country. >> this move comes after nsa leaker edward snowden indicated the u.s. was eavesdropping on german chancellor angela merkel and 34 other foreign leaders. dozens of pages of top secret u.s. documents were declassified on monday. in an parent bid to show the nsa was acting legally when it gathered millions of americans phone record. >>> the obama administration is granting a six-week extension to americans who want to sign. for obama care coverage. the new deadline is march 13st and extended because the website has a number of problems. we are told the website is back up and running now. >>> when it comes to terrorism the future looks frightening. cnn obtaining a sobering new report that reveals casualty and attacks are on the rise. as chris lawrence reports, there is no end in sight to that troubling trend. >> reporter: it's not your imagination. terrorists are launching more attacks like this deadly assault on a nairobi mall. and it's likely the world will see even more violence next year. cnn obtained exclusive access to an upcoming report from stark, a group that tracks terrorism around the world. it found there were 69% more terrorist attacks in 2012 than the year before. there was an 89% jump in deaths and with well over 5,000 attacks through june of this year, the future looks even deadlier. >> i expect we will see that reflected in even more violence in 2013 and each higher numbers. >> reporter: dan benjamin was the terrorism coordinator at the state department. he says many of too today's militant groups judge success by the number of people killed, including civilians. >> the old red lines, the old barriers are all gone. >> reporter: six of the deadliest groups are affiliated with al qaeda including afghanistan and going after christian targets. the target of other religions is driving the casualty rate higher. >> it is much more like war fare and it's war fare using the tools of terrorism. >> reporter: the violence is more concentrated than you might think. three countries, iraq, pakistan, and afghanistan suffer more than half the attacks and the casualties. and that really points out the flip side of some of those numbers. the danger to civilians in the united states and western europe and even parts of eastern asia isn't nearly as high and may actually be declining. chris lawrence, cnn, washington. >>> now there are some of the buildings that are still showing signs of damage and the repairs are ongoing. but on the one-year anniversary of hurricane sandy ellis island is opening one against and welcoming visitors. what an important place this is. >> take your children. some of the displays are great. it's a remarkable place to visit. >> the gateway where millions of people came to this country, it was badly battered by superstorm sandy and a new electrical system should be operational by may and new heating and air-conditioning condition to withstand future possible flooding still being built at this time. >> it's in the basement. they are really working feverishly to make sure everything is up and functioning so everybody is comfortable as they walk through there. >>> one of the hardest hit from superstorm sandy was seaside heights, new jersey. >> we find indra petersons there this morning. >> really hard to believe it's a year since superstorm sandy really hit this area. i want to show you a map from space to remind you how large the system was. we are talking about from maine through florida and extending all the way back toward michigan. a thousand miles wide. the largest ever that we saw gale force winds or tropical storm force winds. unbelievable the magnitude of the storm. i'm standing in front of where we used to see the jet star roller coaster that was torn down in may and we no longer seeing this. what we are left is construction. they are trying to rebuild in this region. you can see the pier was open for the summer. the boardwalk, 90% of the businesses are open and still building -- hoping to have a roller coaster by the summer but it may take another year or so. i have maps to explain what the differences were and why so many people didn't take sandy as seriously as irene. arenee came parallel to the shore and sandy came in way more perpendicular. the reason this matters, take a look at these animations. when it comes in perpendicular to the shore a concentrated storm shore and why the storm shore was more high and you saw the storm surge spread out and why we had the superstorm was all of these things came together the timing of the hide tied and direction and angle it came in and the magnitude of the storm. a huge storm is exiting out of montana and 10 inches possible through wyoming and portions of colorado so if you're in vail, look for snow in that region and telluride. this system will clash the cool air into the south and brings a severe weather threat through the panhandle of texas today and something we will be monitoring closely. >> thanks, indra. appreciate it. >>> a serial rapist release putting a community on edge. residents fear what happened last time when the pillow case rapist was set free. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter. ♪ hey lady! noooo! no! 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that's a tough call. it's a tough call. >>> let's take a look what is coming up on "new day." chris and kate are joining us. good morning. >> good morning, guys. >> we are talking about the person involved in that story. there are protocols that are supposed to be in plaes and you have to examine the facts carefully in these situations to make sure everything was done the right way to rule out pre , prejudice and lack of protocol. the community feels it wasn't done right. >>> we will take a look at an important anniversary. superstorm sandy. one year ago today. many of us were standing in the way of what turned out to be one of the most devastating storms to ever hit the east coast. here is the truth. a lot of areas haven't recovered. families are displaced. money has been slow. rebuilding has become a big problem. a lot of people just been not back in their homes and nowhere still. we will take a look at it and talk about vulnerability going forward. >> here is also a very interesting idea to consider. put a little box in your car and pay taxes only on how many miles you drive, not on how much gas you pump or how much gas you use. the people behind this idea say it would mean the end of the gas tax and that you would be rewarded for driving less, but could it also mean an invasion of privacy? who is up? who is down some swho a winner if this actually takes place but one idea that one state is testing out and we will talk about it. >> look forward to hearing about it. >> of course. >>> it is time for your morning rhyme. our tweet of the day comes from? >> rich chosen one. that is his name. rich chosen one. he writes halloween's frights kept me up all the time but it's all right because i have "early start" in my sight. multiple use of the rhyme there. you can come up with your own any time you want. tweet us with the addresses and we appreciate it. >>> coming up next, a remarkable story. >> right now, more than ever, there seems to be a lot of hope and optimism. >> the american trying to lead iran to glory on a soccer field. we are live in tehran with the view of life there like we have never seen before. this is after the break. 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>> she was shocked. she was concerned, as most of my friend and family members were. >> reporter: but the portuguese american wanted to work with long time friend and colleague head coach carlos kerosh. he want a crack at the cup and get to know iran for himself. >> my personality is one of adventure and curiosity. i want to experience a culture in a part of the world that i've never been. >> reporter: when coach gasper got to iran in 2011 he knits he was a little nervous, a little weary so didn't go out and socialize much. now that he knows iran more, he says what you see on tv doesn't exactly match reality. >> when you listen to the news and you read the news, sometimes during commercials, i step away from my couch and i look out the balcony and it's not what i'm seeing and it's not what i'm reading and not what i'm hearing. >> reporter: he says meeting the former president mahmoud ahmadinejad was like anyone else. they are people that love their football team and their country. one of his biggest thrills is iran's qualifications for the world cup finals next year comes amid optimism that tehran will improve relations with washington as moderate president rouhani tries to settle iran's nuclear dispute with the west. >> right now, more than ever, there seems to be a lot of hope and optimism and a sense of energy that things will get better. >> reporter: for now, gasper's focus remains the 2014 world cup in brazil, a final destination in a remarkable journey. >> if i listen to the experts and listen to my friends and family, i probably would have never been here in iran. it's been part of my life for the last three years and during those three years, have been some wonderful experiences and perms memories that are going to last a lifetime. >> reporter: gasper says one of his biggest challenges has been being away from his wife and family. he really misses them but his goal is to bring the world cup back to iran. after that, he says he is coming back to america after a pretty cool journey. >> what an amazing adventure, indeed. the iranians, they love that soccer team which has had some success over the years in world cup. reza sayah, thank you for that wonderful piece. >> loved it. great. thank you. >>> penn state paying up. we now know how many engineer sandusky crimes have cost the school. we will share that number with you when we come back. today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management. avo: sales event is "sback.hen drive" which means it's never been easier to get a new passat, awarded j.d. power's most appealing midsize car, two years in a row. and right now you can drive one home for practically just your signature. get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first month's payment on any new 2014 volkswagen. hurry, this offer ends october 31st. for details, visit vwdealer.com today. >>> welcome back. a murder in massachusetts high school teacher was inspired and being there for anybody who needed her. bus loads of students turning out for the funeral of colleen ritzer. many of them wearing her favorite color which was pink. all of them trying to find something good in every day. >> she saw the goodness in other people. she had a very -- she had a gift for doing that. >> just extreme loss. like it's just going to be a avoid forever in our hearts. i don't know that anything can ever fill that. >> she made such a difference in so many people's lives. ritzer was found dead behind her school last week. one of her students 14-year-old philip chism has been charged with her murder and he has pleaded not guilty. >>> penn state looking to close the book on child sex abuse case and claims in the jerry sandusky case and they are paying $60 million to do so. they have reached settlements with 26 victims of the former assistant football coach. sandusky is in prison likely the rest of his life and serving a minimum of 30 years. >>> chris brown left a washington court to cheers from supporters after a day and a half in custody. prosecutors reduced a felony assault charge to a misdemeanor. brown and his bodyguard are accused of punching a man who tried to pose in a photo with the singer sunday morning. the 24-year-old is still on probation for beating up former girlfriend rihanna in 2009. >>> that is all for "early start" this morning. so glad you were here with us. it is time for "new day." it's all ours. >> thanks, guys. see you later. >>> a lot of news to tell you about this morning so let's start the show. >>> spying is ubiquitous. it's done by every country. >> under fire. president obama is talking about the u.s. spying on its allies. what did he know? how could he not know? now that he has to know, will he stop the practice? >>> after the storm. one year since sandy, there is resilience and hope but still so much more work to be done. all amid new fears it could happen again. indra petersons is on the new jersey shore with the latest. >>> mile after mile. new laws may do away with taxes on gas but get this. instead, you'll be taxed on the mileage you drive. drivers are revved up this morning. >>> your "new day" starts right now. >>> this is "new day" with quoiquoi chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >>> 6:00 in the east. a new strike coming up against obama care. the president has said all along if you like your health insurance coverage, you like your doctor you get to keep them under the affordable care act. that may not be true for some people. who could lose their current coverage? we'll explain, coming up. >> four inmates made a daring escape from an oklahoma jail. two of them are recaptured and have been put back behind bars. the hunt is still on the for the other two fugitives on the loose. they're considered armed and dangerous. a live report coming up. >> take a look at this photo. most of us get really mad when this phone is smashed. his phone took a bullet for him literally. it saved his life. the dramatic story coming up. >>> the obama care administration rethinking its approach to the nsa spying scandal. the president ordering a full review of intelligence operations, specifically where foreign leaders are concerned. let's bring in jim sciutto who's following developments live in washington. >> reporter: the white house taking a hard look at the benefits and costs of this surveillance. this is part of a review that
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debacle that has been the obama care website rollout. have a listen to how it went. >> despite our democrats opposition to part d ten years ago, we committed to making the best of the program. and because of all the changes that have occurred in part d prescription program, 90% of seniors right now the are satisfied. and why are they satisfied? well, are in my district, before that was vote, i made seniors know that i was going to vote no and opposed and i told them two reasons. the gap, the doughnut hole when you're paying for premiums you're not getting any benefits. that was horrendous and number two, no one was an outside source was not sitting down and being the third party to the negotiate the prices of prescription drugs. so it lost. we lost the policy fight. and what did we do? we went back to our districts and we told our seniors although we voted no, we're -- we personally believe and we'll work with the bush administration to make it work. that's what we did. and how many of you stood up to do that? none. zero. zero. let's talk. let's not water the wine here. let's say i
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existing health insurance under obama care. lisa myers, who broke the story, we are going to be talking with her. the story that everybody's talking about. she'll join me next. you're watching the "closing bell" on cnbc, first in business worldwide. opportunities aren't always obvious. sometimes they just drop in. cme group can help you navigate risks and capture opportunities. we enable you to reach global markets and drive forward with broader possibilities. cme group: how the world advances. >>> welcome back. more earnings out. linkedin, over to dominic chu. >> from 4% to 5% down in the market to a flash. after the company, the world's biggest professional networking firm, said sales came in at $393 million, better than estimates, and earnings 39 cents a share, better than estimates. downside pressure applied as fourth quarter and full year sales outlooks coming in below analyst estimates. one thing that might be a positive, why the stock is getting back to flat or slightly positive is that subscriber numbers or member numbers coming in better. they had 259 million members last quart
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